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This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • January 21st - 27th, 2023

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New community members, proliferating Fediverse plurality, and tasting in production. It’s your < 10min update on the #IndieWeb community!

This Week in the IndieWeb audio edition for January 21st - 27th, 2023. https://martymcgui.re/2023/01/28/this-week-in-the-indieweb-audio-edition--january-21st---27th-2023/

A quick article on intellectual risk taking in the early childhood #literacies classroom bit.ly/3RaEdoF What do you look for when observing literacy lessons? #engchat #satchat #edchat
When humanity reverses marble cities face gargled governance of Putrid cousins and from East pockets of holes, scars of shells, falling hell leave the artists' brush dry tones and levels drones and devils descend from darkened skies For too long #smallpoems 1/3
Another interesting contrast^1 in the #IndieWeb community is that most of us have both:
* a domain name^2 — for posting our content, replies, likes etc.
* a chat-name^3 — for chatting in our discussion channels^4

Ideally, we would have a discussion system that “just” used our domain names as identities (IndieAuth^5 for Web sign-in^6) to chat with each other, but no such system exists (yet).

No we’re not going to all setup XMPP servers on our domains and attempt to hook them all up. Nearly no one wants to pay that admintax^7. Nor would XMPP let us “just” use our domain names. Like email, XMPP requires a separate “username”. Sure we could fake it like Bridgy Fed does for us with 'domain @ domain', but why would we work harder for a worse UX?

So instead of making things more complex than domains, we took the opposite approach, and based our chat on IRC, and our chat-names on plain nicknames.

Using a chat system like IRC lowered the barrier to participation in the IndieWeb community, so you could for example, ask about how to pick a domain name^2 instead of being stuck in an actual catch-22^1 of needing a domain name just to ask about a domain name.

By putting our chat archives on the web^8, we were able to reduce our chat system requirements, provide a simple minimal web app for brief chats, and bridge our IRC channels with multiple other chat systems, like Slack, Matrix, and even Discord^9. This has the significant advantage of much greater chat client choice for community members.

However, we did realize that our statements in the chat archives^8 could be more closely tied to our domain identities, including our personal icons^10. Rather than a complex system or new protocol, we just put our flat list of nicknames in templates with images & domains on the wiki^11.

Thus our chat archives, despite being based on IRC, show icons for people, and link their chat nicknames to their personal domain names, again striking a pragmatic balance.^1

The flexibility of using a wiki template allowed us to add personal time zones as well, to enable things like asking in chat, “what time is it for tantek”. This works well enough, except does not account for cross-time-zone travel, though you could update your chat-name entry if you wanted to while traveling.

Having all our chat-names in a single list^11 on a page like that revealed another interesting aspect: we have folks across all the timezones in the US & Europe, some in the Middle East, Australia, and most of Asia as well.

As a result, the IndieWeb chat channels have people awake and often discussing various topics 24 hours a day.

Drop by^8 and say hi, and be sure to have a look at our Code of Conduct.^12


This is day 24 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb #100Days

← Day 23: https://tantek.com/2023/027/t4/five-years-websub
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^1 https://tantek.com/2023/026/t1/indieweb-priorities-balance
^2 https://tantek.com/2023/004/t1/choosing-domain-name-indieweb
^3 https://indieweb.org/chat-names
^4 https://indieweb.org/discuss
^5 https://indieweb.org/IndieAuth
^6 https://indieweb.org/Web_sign-in
^7 https://indieweb.org/admintax
^8 https://chat.indieweb.org/
^9 https://indieweb.org/discuss#Join_Discussions
^10 https://indieweb.org/icon
^11 https://indieweb.org/chat-names#Nicknames
^12 https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct
#IndieWeb #100DaysOfIndieWeb #100Days
paid poorly, I might add if you could talk to the American public and tell them more financial support for State Universities that would be swell Can never remember if you are a socialist who hates state workers or a capitalist who hates money. twitter.com/handles7889221…
Another interesting contrast^1 in the #IndieWeb community is that most of us have both: * a domain name^2 — for posting our content, replies, likes etc. * a chat-name^3 — for chatting in our discussion channels^4 Ideally, we would have a ... tantek.com/t5P45
Mommies, how are facist made?
It was Primarily Russia who started WWII when they invaded Poland WITH Hitler. Russia re-occupied stolen land. They liberated nothing.
Russian Embassy in USA 🇷🇺 https://twitter.com/RusEmbUSA
💬President Vladimir Putin: It was primarily the Soviet nation that put an end to the barbaric Nazi plans in 1945 by standing up for the freedom and independence of its...
So glad for the truth tellers like @SpaghettiKozak Watching the threads of Nazis everywhere, Ukraine too corrupt for NATO, ASOV is neonazi, and Donbas wants independence unwind.... It shows years, decades, of effort by Russia to control information space.
I used to argue with my editors about this to no avail. twitter.com/iverbytskyi/st…

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It's been a while since I've set up an Amazon Echo device. Do I need to come over there and teach some Amazon folks about the OAuth Device Flow? There is a better way than making me type my password on this screen!
It's been a while since I've set up an Amazon Echo device. Do I need to come over there and teach some Amazon folks about the OAuth Device Flow? There is a better way than making me type my password on this screen!
Five years ago (Monday the 23rd) the @W3C Social Web Working Group published the WebSub Recommendation^1 The test suites websub.rocks for Publishers, Subscribers, and Hubs are still up & running, as are the vast majority of implementations ... tantek.com/t5P44
Five years ago (Monday the 23rd) the @W3C Social Web Working Group published the WebSub Recommendation^1

The test suites https://websub.rocks/ for Publishers, Subscribers, and Hubs are still up & running, as are the vast majority of implementations documented in the implementation report.

My site supports the publishing side of WebSub via the Superfeedr Hub^2 and there are many more supporting sites^3.

Beyond publishing blog posts and realtime updates in social readers^4, there are additional WebSub use-cases such as real time #IndieWeb search^5 results, like Technorati except opt-in via WebSub subscriptions, and without any polling.

Such diverse use-cases are one of the benefits of building-block^6 standards^7 like WebSub.

If you create a new WebSub implementation, be sure to test it with the test suite^8 and add your results to the WebSub Implementation Reports repo^9.

Got questions about WebSub? Ask in https://chat.indieweb.org/dev


This is day 23 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb #100Days

← Day 22: https://tantek.com/2023/026/t1/indieweb-priorities-balance
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^1 https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/REC-websub-20180123/
^2 https://pubsubhubbub.superfeedr.com/
^3 https://indieweb.org/WebSub#IndieWeb_Examples
^4 https://indieweb.org/social_reader
^5 https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb_Search
^6 https://indieweb.org/building-blocks
^7 https://spec.indieweb.org/
^8 https://websub.rocks/
^9 https://websub.net/implementation-reports
#IndieWeb #100DaysOfIndieWeb #100Days
My mother told me she hired a handyman named Julio. Thanks to Paul Simon, I keep asking her if she found him down by the schoolyard.
Hey #literacies teachers and #engchat here is a really cool assignment one could do using Canva
I'm taking part in the #CanvaDesignChallenge (Magenta) with yet another fake book cover design! Let me know if you think it looks legit. #WritingCommunity #bookcoverdesig...
It is good to see Academics standing up to bad laws. Just wait as #Connecticut school districts learn what the "science of reading" did to the concept of "local control"
Alfred W. Tatum (Provost) https://twitter.com/AlfredTatum
Our Dean @elizabeth_hinde of the School of Education has strong legislative chops when advocating on behalf of teachers. Strong leadership @msudenver. twitter.com/elizabe...

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