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Is the #IndieWeb just blogs/blogging?

What if I told you the "indie web"^1 is older than "blog" or "weblog"^2?

The IndieWeb, as it says on the homepage^3, also goes beyond blogging^4.

And those are just the terms.

It should come as no surprise that conceptually:

personal sites in general, predated
personal sites with reverse-chronologically-ordered dated entries.

Good concepts, even if forgotten, tend to be rediscovered & reinvented over time.

When I first used the phrase "indie web" (two words) in 2010^5, I used it descriptively, an informal shorthand for the "independent web". I didn’t find out about the 1997^1 use of the phrase until many years later.

I saw & was a fan of the 2001 launch of the "Independents Day" site & its manifesto^6 (at independentsday(.)org, since offline) that asked “if you create^7 your own site”, to join them. That encouragement stuck with me, and was a source of inspiration nine years later.

In my presentation^8 at the 2010 Federated Social Web Summit^9, I referenced the "indie web" again, and afterwards I proposed to @aaronparecki.com that we start something focused on explicit principles & practices.^10

After subsequent chats & discussions, we settled on the term “IndieWeb” (one word). We started with three essential principles/practices, in today’s terms: “create”, “use what you make”, and “own your data”, which the community eventually expanded into 11 principles^11.

This brings us back to the original question, is the #IndieWeb just blogs/blogging?

In short no. Seemingly paradoxically, blogging is neither required nor sufficient to “be” IndieWeb as we use the term today.

Are IndieWeb sites blogs?

Some (perhaps even most) of them are. However, there are plenty of personal sites that are just a homepage^12, or a handful of static pages like a portfolio^13.

Are blogs IndieWeb sites?

Some of them are, if they are personal blogs, or other forms of independent sites, like small organizations with their own blogs, on their own domains. However the concept of the IndieWeb goes far beyond blogging, or any jargon like decentralization or federation.^4

The aforementioned principles^11 provide a good foundation for the IndieWeb, and a good contrast from the prevailing project-centric attitudes of the day. The practices described inside each principle, such as owning your data meaning owning your notes^14 as well, start to hint at what it means to do & be IndieWeb today.

If you have a blog on your own domain, and yet you post notes as tweets or toots on someone else’s domain, are you “doing” IndieWeb?

Such a split practice could be considered a mid-to-late 2000s approach to the “indie web”, but certainly not the 2023 IndieWeb. Since 2010, the IndieWeb evolved & extended far beyond blogs, into many kinds of posts^15 typical in social media (but lacking in blogs), and site-to-site social web interactions^16, like replies that looked like actual comments, rather than awkwardly displayed blog trackbacks/pingbacks.

Either way, if you have your own site (whether a blog or not) and create with it, like the 2001 Independents Day encouragement, come join us^17, and we’ll help you get setup to do so much more.


This is day 25 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb #100Days

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^1 1997-02-01 https://web.archive.org/web/20010805195949/http://www.uzine.net/article63.html
^2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog#History
^3 https://indieweb.org/#Beyond_Blogging_and_Decentralization
^4 https://indieweb.org/different
^5 http://tantek.com/2010/123/t2/blogger-turned-off-ftp-what-indie-web-diso (https://twitter.com/t/status/13329370781)
^6 https://indieweb.org/Independents_Day
^7 https://indieweb.org/creator
^8 https://web.archive.org/web/20100723133231/http://federatedsocialweb.net/wiki/2010-199-tantek-fsws-talk
^9 https://indieweb.org/Federated_Social_Web_Summit#Portland_2010
^10 https://indieweb.org/founders#IndieWeb_movement_and_terminology
^11 https://indieweb.org/principles
^12 https://indieweb.org/homepage
^13 https://indieweb.org/portfolio
^14 https://tantek.com/2023/001/t1/own-your-notes
^15 https://indieweb.org/posts#Types_of_Posts
^16 https://indieweb.org/responses
^17 https://chat.indieweb.org/
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Another interesting contrast^1 in the #IndieWeb community is that most of us have both:
* a domain name^2 — for posting our content, replies, likes etc.
* a chat-name^3 — for chatting in our discussion channels^4

Ideally, we would have a discussion system that “just” used our domain names as identities (IndieAuth^5 for Web sign-in^6) to chat with each other, but no such system exists (yet).

No we’re not going to all setup XMPP servers on our domains and attempt to hook them all up. Nearly no one wants to pay that admintax^7. Nor would XMPP let us “just” use our domain names. Like email, XMPP requires a separate “username”. Sure we could fake it like Bridgy Fed does for us with 'domain @ domain', but why would we work harder for a worse UX?

So instead of making things more complex than domains, we took the opposite approach, and based our chat on IRC, and our chat-names on plain nicknames.

Using a chat system like IRC lowered the barrier to participation in the IndieWeb community, so you could for example, ask about how to pick a domain name^2 instead of being stuck in an actual catch-22^1 of needing a domain name just to ask about a domain name.

By putting our chat archives on the web^8, we were able to reduce our chat system requirements, provide a simple minimal web app for brief chats, and bridge our IRC channels with multiple other chat systems, like Slack, Matrix, and even Discord^9. This has the significant advantage of much greater chat client choice for community members.

However, we did realize that our statements in the chat archives^8 could be more closely tied to our domain identities, including our personal icons^10. Rather than a complex system or new protocol, we just put our flat list of nicknames in templates with images & domains on the wiki^11.

Thus our chat archives, despite being based on IRC, show icons for people, and link their chat nicknames to their personal domain names, again striking a pragmatic balance.^1

The flexibility of using a wiki template allowed us to add personal time zones as well, to enable things like asking in chat, “what time is it for tantek”. This works well enough, except does not account for cross-time-zone travel, though you could update your chat-name entry if you wanted to while traveling.

Having all our chat-names in a single list^11 on a page like that revealed another interesting aspect: we have folks across all the timezones in the US & Europe, some in the Middle East, Australia, and most of Asia as well.

As a result, the IndieWeb chat channels have people awake and often discussing various topics 24 hours a day.

Drop by^8 and say hi, and be sure to have a look at our Code of Conduct.^12


This is day 24 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb #100Days

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^1 https://tantek.com/2023/026/t1/indieweb-priorities-balance
^2 https://tantek.com/2023/004/t1/choosing-domain-name-indieweb
^3 https://indieweb.org/chat-names
^4 https://indieweb.org/discuss
^5 https://indieweb.org/IndieAuth
^6 https://indieweb.org/Web_sign-in
^7 https://indieweb.org/admintax
^8 https://chat.indieweb.org/
^9 https://indieweb.org/discuss#Join_Discussions
^10 https://indieweb.org/icon
^11 https://indieweb.org/chat-names#Nicknames
^12 https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct
#IndieWeb #100DaysOfIndieWeb #100Days
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Another interesting contrast^1 in the #IndieWeb community is that most of us have both: * a domain name^2 — for posting our content, replies, likes etc. * a chat-name^3 — for chatting in our discussion channels^4 Ideally, we would have a ... tantek.com/t5P45