I'm planning out my travel for the year, and now that Brisbane is scratched, I'm barely going to hit Alaska MVP Gold. And if I buy the annual lounge pass, even with the signup bonus discount, it will work out to about $35 per visit.
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Similar to @paulgraham.com (@paulg@mas.to@paulg)’s 2008 observation about trolls¹, there’s a sort of Gresham's Law of developers (vs users): developers are willing to use a forum with a lot of users in it, but users aren’t willing to use a forum with a lot of developer-speak.
Whether such forums are email lists, chat (IRC, #Matrix, #Slack, #Discord), or, well, online forums (#Reddit, #HackerNews), when discussions either start or shift into technical details, jargon, or acronyms, users (in a very broad sense) tend to stop participating, and sometimes leave, never to return.
Users in this context are anyone with a desire (or a preference) not to chat or even be bothered spending time reading about technical plumbing & #jargon, and see such discussions as a distraction at best, and more like noise to be avoided.
Paraphrasing Paul Graham again: once technical details, jargon, acronyms “take hold, it tends to become the dominant culture” and discourages users from showing up, discussing user-centric topics, or even staying in said forum.
The #IndieWeb community started in 2011 as a single #indiewebcamp IRC channel (no email list²) because it was tightly coupled to IndieWebCamp events, which were both highly technical and yet focused on actually making things work on your personal site that you need³, that you will use⁴ yourself. Conversations bridged real world use-cases and technical details.
It only took us five years after the first IndieWebCamp in Portland to recognize that the community had grown beyond the events, and had a clear need for a separate place for deep discussions of developer topics.
As part of renaming the community from IndieWebCamp to IndieWeb⁵, we created the #indieweb-dev (dev) channel for such technical topics like protocols, formats, tools, coding libraries, APIs, and any other acronyms or jargon.
The community did a good job of keeping technical topics in the dev channel, and encouraging new folks in the main #indieweb channel who started technical conversations to continue them in the dev channel.
Still, it was too easy for user-centric topics to veer into technical territory. It often felt more natural to continue a thread in the channel it started rather than break to another channel. There was also a need for regular community labor to nudge developer conversations to the developer chat channel.
We had already started documenting IndieWeb related jargon⁶ on the wiki and turned it into a MediaWiki Category so we could tag individual pages as jargon and have them automatically show-up in a list. Soon after, @aaronparecki.com (@aaronpk@aaronparecki.com) added a heuristic to the friendly channel bot Loqi to recognize when people started using jargon in the main IndieWeb chat channel and nudge⁷ them to the development channel.
Having Loqi do some of the gentle nudging has helped, though it‘s still quite easy for even the experienced folks in the community to get drawn into a developer conversation on main as it were.
We’ve documented both a summary and lengthier descriptions of channel purposes⁸ which help us remind each other, as well as provide a guide to newcomers.
Both experienced community members and newcomers share much of the user-centric focus of the IndieWeb, the IndieWeb being for everyone⁹, whether developer, hobbyist, or someone who wants an independent presence on the web without bothering with technical details. Whether some of us want to code or not, we all want to use our IndieWeb sites to express ourselves on the web, to use our sites instead of depending on social media silos. That shared purpose keeps us focused.
It takes a village: eternal community vigilance is the price of staying user-centric and welcoming to newcomers.
The ideas behind this post were originally shared in the IndieWeb meta chat channel.¹⁰
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"text": "Similar to @paulgraham.com (@paulg@mas.to @paulg)\u2019s 2008 observation about trolls\u00b9, there\u2019s a sort of Gresham's Law of developers (vs users): developers are willing to use a forum with a lot of users in it, but users aren\u2019t willing to use a forum with a lot of developer-speak.\n\nWhether such forums are email lists, chat (IRC, #Matrix, #Slack, #Discord), or, well, online forums (#Reddit, #HackerNews), when discussions either start or shift into technical details, jargon, or acronyms, users (in a very broad sense) tend to stop participating, and sometimes leave, never to return.\n\nUsers in this context are anyone with a desire (or a preference) not to chat or even be bothered spending time reading about technical plumbing & #jargon, and see such discussions as a distraction at best, and more like noise to be avoided.\n\nParaphrasing Paul Graham again: once technical details, jargon, acronyms \u201ctake hold, it tends to become the dominant culture\u201d and discourages users from showing up, discussing user-centric topics, or even staying in said forum.\n\n\nThe #IndieWeb community started in 2011 as a single #indiewebcamp IRC channel (no email list\u00b2) because it was tightly coupled to IndieWebCamp events, which were both highly technical and yet focused on actually making things work on your personal site that you need\u00b3, that you will use\u2074 yourself. Conversations bridged real world use-cases and technical details.\n\nIt only took us five years after the first IndieWebCamp in Portland to recognize that the community had grown beyond the events, and had a clear need for a separate place for deep discussions of developer topics.\n\nAs part of renaming the community from IndieWebCamp to IndieWeb\u2075, we created the #indieweb-dev (dev) channel for such technical topics like protocols, formats, tools, coding libraries, APIs, and any other acronyms or jargon.\n\nThe community did a good job of keeping technical topics in the dev channel, and encouraging new folks in the main #indieweb channel who started technical conversations to continue them in the dev channel. \n\nStill, it was too easy for user-centric topics to veer into technical territory. It often felt more natural to continue a thread in the channel it started rather than break to another channel. There was also a need for regular community labor to nudge developer conversations to the developer chat channel.\n\n\nWe had already started documenting IndieWeb related jargon\u2076 on the wiki and turned it into a MediaWiki Category so we could tag individual pages as jargon and have them automatically show-up in a list. Soon after, @aaronparecki.com (@aaronpk@aaronparecki.com) added a heuristic to the friendly channel bot Loqi to recognize when people started using jargon in the main IndieWeb chat channel and nudge\u2077 them to the development channel.\n\nHaving Loqi do some of the gentle nudging has helped, though it\u2018s still quite easy for even the experienced folks in the community to get drawn into a developer conversation on main as it were.\n\nWe\u2019ve documented both a summary and lengthier descriptions of channel purposes\u2078 which help us remind each other, as well as provide a guide to newcomers.\n\nBoth experienced community members and newcomers share much of the user-centric focus of the IndieWeb, the IndieWeb being for everyone\u2079, whether developer, hobbyist, or someone who wants an independent presence on the web without bothering with technical details. Whether some of us want to code or not, we all want to use our IndieWeb sites to express ourselves on the web, to use our sites instead of depending on social media silos. 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"html": "Similar to <a href=\"https://paulgraham.com\">@paulgraham.com</a> (<a href=\"https://mas.to/@paulg\">@paulg@mas.to</a> <a class=\"h-cassis-username\" href=\"https://twitter.com/paulg\">@paulg</a>)\u2019s 2008 observation about trolls<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-1\">\u00b9</a>, there\u2019s a sort of Gresham's Law of developers (vs users): developers are willing to use a forum with a lot of users in it, but users aren\u2019t willing to use a forum with a lot of developer-speak.<br /><br />Whether such forums are email lists, chat (IRC, #<span class=\"p-category\">Matrix</span>, #<span class=\"p-category\">Slack</span>, #<span class=\"p-category\">Discord</span>), or, well, online forums (#Reddit, #<span class=\"p-category\">HackerNews</span>), when discussions either start or shift into technical details, jargon, or acronyms, users (in a very broad sense) tend to stop participating, and sometimes leave, never to return.<br /><br />Users in this context are anyone with a desire (or a preference) not to chat or even be bothered spending time reading about technical plumbing & #<span class=\"p-category\">jargon</span>, and see such discussions as a distraction at best, and more like noise to be avoided.<br /><br />Paraphrasing Paul Graham again: once technical details, jargon, acronyms \u201ctake hold, it tends to become the dominant culture\u201d and discourages users from showing up, discussing user-centric topics, or even staying in said forum.<br /><br /><br />The #<span class=\"p-category\">IndieWeb</span> community started in 2011 as a single #<span class=\"p-category\">indiewebcamp</span> IRC channel (no email list<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-2\">\u00b2</a>) because it was tightly coupled to IndieWebCamp events, which were both highly technical and yet focused on actually making things work on your personal site that you need<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-3\">\u00b3</a>, that you will use<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-4\">\u2074</a> yourself. Conversations bridged real world use-cases and technical details.<br /><br />It only took us five years after the first IndieWebCamp in Portland to recognize that the community had grown beyond the events, and had a clear need for a separate place for deep discussions of developer topics.<br /><br />As part of renaming the community from IndieWebCamp to IndieWeb<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-5\">\u2075</a>, we created the #<span class=\"p-category\">indieweb-dev</span> (dev) channel for such technical topics like protocols, formats, tools, coding libraries, APIs, and any other acronyms or jargon.<br /><br />The community did a good job of keeping technical topics in the dev channel, and encouraging new folks in the main #<span class=\"p-category\">indieweb</span> channel who started technical conversations to continue them in the dev channel. <br /><br />Still, it was too easy for user-centric topics to veer into technical territory. It often felt more natural to continue a thread in the channel it started rather than break to another channel. There was also a need for regular community labor to nudge developer conversations to the developer chat channel.<br /><br /><br />We had already started documenting IndieWeb related jargon<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-6\">\u2076</a> on the wiki and turned it into a MediaWiki Category so we could tag individual pages as jargon and have them automatically show-up in a list. Soon after, <a href=\"https://aaronparecki.com\">@aaronparecki.com</a> (<a href=\"https://aaronparecki.com/@aaronpk\">@aaronpk@aaronparecki.com</a>) added a heuristic to the friendly channel bot Loqi to recognize when people started using jargon in the main IndieWeb chat channel and nudge<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-7\">\u2077</a> them to the development channel.<br /><br />Having Loqi do some of the gentle nudging has helped, though it\u2018s still quite easy for even the experienced folks in the community to get drawn into a developer conversation on main as it were.<br /><br />We\u2019ve documented both a summary and lengthier descriptions of channel purposes<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-8\">\u2078</a> which help us remind each other, as well as provide a guide to newcomers.<br /><br />Both experienced community members and newcomers share much of the user-centric focus of the IndieWeb, the IndieWeb being for everyone<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-9\">\u2079</a>, whether developer, hobbyist, or someone who wants an independent presence on the web without bothering with technical details. Whether some of us want to code or not, we all want to use our IndieWeb sites to express ourselves on the web, to use our sites instead of depending on social media silos. That shared purpose keeps us focused.<br /><br />It takes a village: eternal community vigilance is the price of staying user-centric and welcoming to newcomers.<br /><br />The ideas behind this post were originally shared in the IndieWeb meta chat channel.<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-10\">\u00b9\u2070</a><br /><br /><br />This is post 8 of #<span class=\"p-category\">100PostsOfIndieWeb</span>. #<span class=\"p-category\">100Posts</span><br /><br />\u2190 <a href=\"https://tantek.com/2024/033/t1/earthquake-sanfrancisco-shifted\">https://tantek.com/2024/033/t1/earthquake-sanfrancisco-shifted</a><br />\u2192 <a href=\"https://tantek.com/2024/035/t2/indiewebcamp-brighton-tickets-available\">https://tantek.com/2024/035/t2/indiewebcamp-brighton-tickets-available</a><br /><br /><br />Post glossary:<br /><br />development channel (indieweb-dev)<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/discuss#dev\">https://indieweb.org/discuss#dev</a><br />Discord<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/Discord\">https://indieweb.org/Discord</a><br />format<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/format\">https://indieweb.org/format</a><br />Hacker News (HN)<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/Hacker_News\">https://indieweb.org/Hacker_News</a><br />IndieWeb<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb\">https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb</a><br />IndieWebCamp<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/IndieWebCamp\">https://indieweb.org/IndieWebCamp</a><br />IRC<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/IRC\">https://indieweb.org/IRC</a><br />jargon<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/jargon\">https://indieweb.org/jargon</a><br />Loqi<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/Loqi\">https://indieweb.org/Loqi</a><br />main IndieWeb chat channel (on main)<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/discuss#indieweb\">https://indieweb.org/discuss#indieweb</a><br />Matrix<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/Matrix\">https://indieweb.org/Matrix</a><br />meta chat channel<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/discuss#meta\">https://indieweb.org/discuss#meta</a><br />MediaWiki Category<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Categories\">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Categories</a><br />plumbing<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/plumbing\">https://indieweb.org/plumbing</a><br />protocol<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/protocol\">https://indieweb.org/protocol</a><br />Reddit<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/Reddit\">https://indieweb.org/Reddit</a><br />tools<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/tools\">https://indieweb.org/tools</a><br />Slack<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/Slack\">https://indieweb.org/Slack</a><br />social media silos<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/silos\">https://indieweb.org/silos</a><br /><br /><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-1\">\u00b9</a> <a href=\"https://www.paulgraham.com/trolls.html\">https://www.paulgraham.com/trolls.html</a> (2008 essay, HN still succumbed to trolling)<br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-2\">\u00b2</a> <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/discuss#Email\">https://indieweb.org/discuss#Email</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-3\">\u00b3</a> <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/make_what_you_need\">https://indieweb.org/make_what_you_need</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-4\">\u2074</a> <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/use_what_you_make\">https://indieweb.org/use_what_you_make</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-5\">\u2075</a> <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/rename_to_IndieWeb\">https://indieweb.org/rename_to_IndieWeb</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-6\">\u2076</a> <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/jargon\">https://indieweb.org/jargon</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-7\">\u2077</a> <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/Category:jargon#Loqi_Nudge\">https://indieweb.org/Category:jargon#Loqi_Nudge</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-8\">\u2078</a> <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/discuss#Chat_Channels_Purposes\">https://indieweb.org/discuss#Chat_Channels_Purposes</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-9\">\u2079</a> <a href=\"https://tantek.com/2024/026/t3/indieweb-for-everyone-internet-of-people\">https://tantek.com/2024/026/t3/indieweb-for-everyone-internet-of-people</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-10\">\u00b9\u2070</a> <a href=\"https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2024-01-22#t1705883690759800\">https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2024-01-22#t1705883690759800</a>"
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Similar to @paulgraham.com (@paulg@mas.to@paulg)’s observation about trolls¹, there’s a sort of Gresham's Law of developers (vs users): developers are willing to use a forum with a lot of users in it, but users aren’t willing to use a forum with a lot of developer-speak.
Whether such forums are email lists, chat (IRC, #Matrix, #Slack, #Discord), or, well, online forums (#Reddit, #HackerNews), when discussions either start or shift into technical details, jargon, or acronyms, users (in a very broad sense) tend to stop participating, and sometimes leave, never to return.
Users in this context are anyone with a desire (or a preference) not to chat or even be bothered spending time reading about technical plumbing & #jargon, and see such discussions as a distraction at best, and more like noise to be avoided.
Paraphrasing Paul Graham again: once technical details, jargon, acronyms “take hold, it tends to become the dominant culture” and discourages users from showing up, discussing user-centric topics, or even staying in said forum.
The #IndieWeb community started in 2011 as a single IRC channel #indiewebcamp (no email list²) because it was tightly coupled to IndieWebCamp events, which were both highly technical and yet focused on actually making things work on your personal site that you need³, that you will use⁴ yourself. Conversations bridged real world use-cases and technical details.
It only took us five years after the first IndieWebCamp in Portland to recognize that the community had grown beyond the events, and had a clear need for a separate place for deep discussions of developer topics.
As part of renaming the community from IndieWebCamp to IndieWeb⁵, we created the #indieweb-dev (dev) channel for such technical topics like protocols, formats, tools, coding libraries, APIs, and any other acronyms or jargon.
The community did a good job of keeping technical topics in the dev channel, and encouraging new folks in the main #indieweb channel who started technical conversations to continue them in the dev channel.
Still, it was too easy for user-centric topics to veer into technical territory. It often felt more natural to continue such threads in the channel it started rather than break to another channel. It was also a constant bit of community labor to nudge developer conversations to the developer chat channel.
We had already started documenting IndieWeb related jargon⁶ on the wiki and turned it into a MediaWiki Category so we could tag individual pages as jargon and have them automatically show-up in a list. Soon after, @aaronparecki.com (@aaronpk@aaronparecki.com) added a heuristic to the friendly channel bot Loqi to recognize when people started using jargon in the main IndieWeb chat channel and nudge⁷ them to the development channel.
Having Loqi do some of the gentle nudging has helped, though it‘s still quite easy for even the experienced folks in the community to get drawn into a developer conversation on main as it were.
We’ve documented both a summary and lengthier descriptions of channel purposes⁸ which help us remind each other, as well as provide a guide to newcomers.
Both experienced community members and newcomers share much of the user-centric focus of the IndieWeb, the IndieWeb being for everyone⁹, whether developer, hobbyist, or someone who wants an independent presence on the web without bothering with technical details. Whether some of us want to code or not, we all want to use our IndieWeb sites, to use our sites instead of depending on social media silos. That common purpose keeps us focused.
It takes a community to keep a community healthy and welcoming to newcomers. Eternal community vigilance is the price of a user-focused and newcomer-inclusive community.
The ideas behind this post were originally shared in the IndieWeb meta chat channel.¹⁰
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"text": "Similar to @paulgraham.com (@paulg@mas.to @paulg)\u2019s observation about trolls\u00b9, there\u2019s a sort of Gresham's Law of developers (vs users): developers are willing to use a forum with a lot of users in it, but users aren\u2019t willing to use a forum with a lot of developer-speak.\n\nWhether such forums are email lists, chat (IRC, #Matrix, #Slack, #Discord), or, well, online forums (#Reddit, #HackerNews), when discussions either start or shift into technical details, jargon, or acronyms, users (in a very broad sense) tend to stop participating, and sometimes leave, never to return.\n\nUsers in this context are anyone with a desire (or a preference) not to chat or even be bothered spending time reading about technical plumbing & #jargon, and see such discussions as a distraction at best, and more like noise to be avoided.\n\nParaphrasing Paul Graham again: once technical details, jargon, acronyms \u201ctake hold, it tends to become the dominant culture\u201d and discourages users from showing up, discussing user-centric topics, or even staying in said forum.\n\n\nThe #IndieWeb community started in 2011 as a single IRC channel #indiewebcamp (no email list\u00b2) because it was tightly coupled to IndieWebCamp events, which were both highly technical and yet focused on actually making things work on your personal site that you need\u00b3, that you will use\u2074 yourself. Conversations bridged real world use-cases and technical details.\n\nIt only took us five years after the first IndieWebCamp in Portland to recognize that the community had grown beyond the events, and had a clear need for a separate place for deep discussions of developer topics.\n\nAs part of renaming the community from IndieWebCamp to IndieWeb\u2075, we created the #indieweb-dev (dev) channel for such technical topics like protocols, formats, tools, coding libraries, APIs, and any other acronyms or jargon.\n\nThe community did a good job of keeping technical topics in the dev channel, and encouraging new folks in the main #indieweb channel who started technical conversations to continue them in the dev channel. \n\nStill, it was too easy for user-centric topics to veer into technical territory. It often felt more natural to continue such threads in the channel it started rather than break to another channel. It was also a constant bit of community labor to nudge developer conversations to the developer chat channel.\n\n\nWe had already started documenting IndieWeb related jargon\u2076 on the wiki and turned it into a MediaWiki Category so we could tag individual pages as jargon and have them automatically show-up in a list. Soon after, @aaronparecki.com (@aaronpk@aaronparecki.com) added a heuristic to the friendly channel bot Loqi to recognize when people started using jargon in the main IndieWeb chat channel and nudge\u2077 them to the development channel.\n\nHaving Loqi do some of the gentle nudging has helped, though it\u2018s still quite easy for even the experienced folks in the community to get drawn into a developer conversation on main as it were.\n\nWe\u2019ve documented both a summary and lengthier descriptions of channel purposes\u2078 which help us remind each other, as well as provide a guide to newcomers.\n\nBoth experienced community members and newcomers share much of the user-centric focus of the IndieWeb, the IndieWeb being for everyone\u2079, whether developer, hobbyist, or someone who wants an independent presence on the web without bothering with technical details. Whether some of us want to code or not, we all want to use our IndieWeb sites, to use our sites instead of depending on social media silos. That common purpose keeps us focused. \n\nIt takes a community to keep a community healthy and welcoming to newcomers. Eternal community vigilance is the price of a user-focused and newcomer-inclusive community.\n\nThe ideas behind this post were originally shared in the IndieWeb meta chat channel.\u00b9\u2070\n\n\nThis is post 8 of #100PostsOfIndieWeb. #100Posts\n\n\u2190 https://tantek.com/2024/033/t1/earthquake-sanfrancisco-shifted\n\u2192 \ud83d\udd2e\n\n\nPost glossary:\n\ndevelopment channel (indieweb-dev)\n\u00a0 https://indieweb.org/discuss#dev\nformat\n\u00a0 https://indieweb.org/format\nIndieWeb\n\u00a0 https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb\nIndieWebCamp\n\u00a0 https://indieweb.org/IndieWebCamp\njargon\n\u00a0 https://indieweb.org/jargon\nLoqi\n\u00a0 https://indieweb.org/Loqi\nmain IndieWeb chat channel (on main)\n\u00a0 https://indieweb.org/discuss#indieweb\nmeta chat channel\n\u00a0 https://indieweb.org/discuss#meta\nMediaWiki Category\n\u00a0 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Categories\nplumbing\n\u00a0 https://indieweb.org/plumbing\nprotocol\n\u00a0 https://indieweb.org/protocol\ntools\n\u00a0 https://indieweb.org/tools\nsocial media silos\n\u00a0 https://indieweb.org/silos\n\n\n\u00b9 https://www.paulgraham.com/trolls.html\n\u00b2 https://indieweb.org/discuss#Email\n\u00b3 https://indieweb.org/make_what_you_need\n\u2074 https://indieweb.org/use_what_you_make\n\u2075 https://indieweb.org/rename_to_IndieWeb\n\u2076 https://indieweb.org/jargon\n\u2077 https://indieweb.org/Category:jargon#Loqi_Nudge\n\u2078 https://indieweb.org/discuss#Chat_Channels_Purposes\n\u2079 https://tantek.com/2024/026/t3/indieweb-for-everyone-internet-of-people\n\u00b9\u2070 https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2024-01-22#t1705883690759800",
"html": "Similar to <a href=\"https://paulgraham.com\">@paulgraham.com</a> (<a href=\"https://mas.to/@paulg\">@paulg@mas.to</a> <a class=\"h-cassis-username\" href=\"https://twitter.com/paulg\">@paulg</a>)\u2019s observation about trolls<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-1\">\u00b9</a>, there\u2019s a sort of Gresham's Law of developers (vs users): developers are willing to use a forum with a lot of users in it, but users aren\u2019t willing to use a forum with a lot of developer-speak.<br /><br />Whether such forums are email lists, chat (IRC, #<span class=\"p-category\">Matrix</span>, #<span class=\"p-category\">Slack</span>, #<span class=\"p-category\">Discord</span>), or, well, online forums (#Reddit, #<span class=\"p-category\">HackerNews</span>), when discussions either start or shift into technical details, jargon, or acronyms, users (in a very broad sense) tend to stop participating, and sometimes leave, never to return.<br /><br />Users in this context are anyone with a desire (or a preference) not to chat or even be bothered spending time reading about technical plumbing & #<span class=\"p-category\">jargon</span>, and see such discussions as a distraction at best, and more like noise to be avoided.<br /><br />Paraphrasing Paul Graham again: once technical details, jargon, acronyms \u201ctake hold, it tends to become the dominant culture\u201d and discourages users from showing up, discussing user-centric topics, or even staying in said forum.<br /><br /><br />The #<span class=\"p-category\">IndieWeb</span> community started in 2011 as a single IRC channel #<span class=\"p-category\">indiewebcamp</span> (no email list<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-2\">\u00b2</a>) because it was tightly coupled to IndieWebCamp events, which were both highly technical and yet focused on actually making things work on your personal site that you need<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-3\">\u00b3</a>, that you will use<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-4\">\u2074</a> yourself. Conversations bridged real world use-cases and technical details.<br /><br />It only took us five years after the first IndieWebCamp in Portland to recognize that the community had grown beyond the events, and had a clear need for a separate place for deep discussions of developer topics.<br /><br />As part of renaming the community from IndieWebCamp to IndieWeb<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-5\">\u2075</a>, we created the #<span class=\"p-category\">indieweb-dev</span> (dev) channel for such technical topics like protocols, formats, tools, coding libraries, APIs, and any other acronyms or jargon.<br /><br />The community did a good job of keeping technical topics in the dev channel, and encouraging new folks in the main #<span class=\"p-category\">indieweb</span> channel who started technical conversations to continue them in the dev channel. <br /><br />Still, it was too easy for user-centric topics to veer into technical territory. It often felt more natural to continue such threads in the channel it started rather than break to another channel. It was also a constant bit of community labor to nudge developer conversations to the developer chat channel.<br /><br /><br />We had already started documenting IndieWeb related jargon<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-6\">\u2076</a> on the wiki and turned it into a MediaWiki Category so we could tag individual pages as jargon and have them automatically show-up in a list. Soon after, <a href=\"https://aaronparecki.com\">@aaronparecki.com</a> (<a href=\"https://aaronparecki.com/@aaronpk\">@aaronpk@aaronparecki.com</a>) added a heuristic to the friendly channel bot Loqi to recognize when people started using jargon in the main IndieWeb chat channel and nudge<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-7\">\u2077</a> them to the development channel.<br /><br />Having Loqi do some of the gentle nudging has helped, though it\u2018s still quite easy for even the experienced folks in the community to get drawn into a developer conversation on main as it were.<br /><br />We\u2019ve documented both a summary and lengthier descriptions of channel purposes<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-8\">\u2078</a> which help us remind each other, as well as provide a guide to newcomers.<br /><br />Both experienced community members and newcomers share much of the user-centric focus of the IndieWeb, the IndieWeb being for everyone<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-9\">\u2079</a>, whether developer, hobbyist, or someone who wants an independent presence on the web without bothering with technical details. Whether some of us want to code or not, we all want to use our IndieWeb sites, to use our sites instead of depending on social media silos. That common purpose keeps us focused. <br /><br />It takes a community to keep a community healthy and welcoming to newcomers. Eternal community vigilance is the price of a user-focused and newcomer-inclusive community.<br /><br />The ideas behind this post were originally shared in the IndieWeb meta chat channel.<a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_note-10\">\u00b9\u2070</a><br /><br /><br />This is post 8 of #<span class=\"p-category\">100PostsOfIndieWeb</span>. #<span class=\"p-category\">100Posts</span><br /><br />\u2190 <a href=\"https://tantek.com/2024/033/t1/earthquake-sanfrancisco-shifted\">https://tantek.com/2024/033/t1/earthquake-sanfrancisco-shifted</a><br />\u2192 \ud83d\udd2e<br /><br /><br />Post glossary:<br /><br />development channel (indieweb-dev)<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/discuss#dev\">https://indieweb.org/discuss#dev</a><br />format<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/format\">https://indieweb.org/format</a><br />IndieWeb<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb\">https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb</a><br />IndieWebCamp<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/IndieWebCamp\">https://indieweb.org/IndieWebCamp</a><br />jargon<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/jargon\">https://indieweb.org/jargon</a><br />Loqi<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/Loqi\">https://indieweb.org/Loqi</a><br />main IndieWeb chat channel (on main)<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/discuss#indieweb\">https://indieweb.org/discuss#indieweb</a><br />meta chat channel<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/discuss#meta\">https://indieweb.org/discuss#meta</a><br />MediaWiki Category<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Categories\">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Categories</a><br />plumbing<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/plumbing\">https://indieweb.org/plumbing</a><br />protocol<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/protocol\">https://indieweb.org/protocol</a><br />tools<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/tools\">https://indieweb.org/tools</a><br />social media silos<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/silos\">https://indieweb.org/silos</a><br /><br /><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-1\">\u00b9</a> <a href=\"https://www.paulgraham.com/trolls.html\">https://www.paulgraham.com/trolls.html</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-2\">\u00b2</a> <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/discuss#Email\">https://indieweb.org/discuss#Email</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-3\">\u00b3</a> <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/make_what_you_need\">https://indieweb.org/make_what_you_need</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-4\">\u2074</a> <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/use_what_you_make\">https://indieweb.org/use_what_you_make</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-5\">\u2075</a> <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/rename_to_IndieWeb\">https://indieweb.org/rename_to_IndieWeb</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-6\">\u2076</a> <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/jargon\">https://indieweb.org/jargon</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-7\">\u2077</a> <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/Category:jargon#Loqi_Nudge\">https://indieweb.org/Category:jargon#Loqi_Nudge</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-8\">\u2078</a> <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/discuss#Chat_Channels_Purposes\">https://indieweb.org/discuss#Chat_Channels_Purposes</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-9\">\u2079</a> <a href=\"https://tantek.com/2024/026/t3/indieweb-for-everyone-internet-of-people\">https://tantek.com/2024/026/t3/indieweb-for-everyone-internet-of-people</a><br /><a href=\"https://tantek.com/#t5VH1_ref-10\">\u00b9\u2070</a> <a href=\"https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2024-01-22#t1705883690759800\">https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2024-01-22#t1705883690759800</a>"
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"published": "2024-02-03T00:29:24-08:00",
"url": "https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/12054-CarMax-is-great",
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"text": "I feel like I need to sing the praise of CarMax, the dealership I bought the Niro at.First of all: They had amazing prices on things, and a no-nonsense no-haggle policy. You pick out your car online, make an appointment to test drive it, and get some time with it.They also did an amazing job of getting it ready for me. They performed all necessary service, including replacing the tires, and did a thorough inspection.The inspection on mine missed two points: It was missing its emergency trickle charger, and there was a small but concerning crack on the windshield. When I pointed these things out, they immediately bought me a new, official trickle charger ($300) and paid for the entire windshield to be replaced ($700) \u2014 no questions asked, no proof required.And with both issues, I\u2019d called their service number outside of their business hours, and their answering service forwarded my concerns along and I got immediate contact, direct from the sales representative I worked with, as soon as they opened!They also gave me the best offer on my old car by far, and worked really hard to get me every possible tax credit on the vehicle (the best one being the sales tax credit from the trade-in to begin with), and gave me a clear and concise explanation for why the ones I couldn\u2019t get weren\u2019t available. Not that it matters \u2014 the original price on the Niro was already ridiculously low, and the fact they\u2019ve paid an additional $1000 to fix the issues mentioned above is a nice bonus on top.This is 100% my own opinion, unsolicited, and I earn no commission or affiliate fee for saying this.I honestly feel that CarMax is how all car dealerships should be.The only thing I disliked about the whole experience is that they still aren\u2019t quite equipped for EV sales, and don\u2019t list things like range specs or show the battery condition on the inspection report. (For battery condition you really should bring an OBD-II scanner and an appropriate app, anyway. My Niro was still at 100%.) This is such an incredibly minor concern that I feel like it almost isn\u2019t even worth mentioning, and as EVs get more popular this issue will definitely go away anyway.So, yeah. CarMax is such a good experience. They are absolutely the way that car sales should be.",
"html": "<p>I feel like I need to sing the praise of <a href=\"https://carmax.com/\">CarMax</a>, the dealership I bought the Niro at.</p><p>First of all: They had amazing prices on things, and a no-nonsense no-haggle policy. You pick out your car online, make an appointment to test drive it, and get some time with it.</p><p>They also did an amazing job of getting it ready for me. They performed all necessary service, including replacing the tires, and did a thorough inspection.</p><p>The inspection on mine missed two points: It was missing its emergency trickle charger, and there was a small but concerning crack on the windshield. When I pointed these things out, they <em>immediately</em> bought me a new, official trickle charger ($300) and paid for the entire windshield to be replaced ($700) \u2014 no questions asked, no proof required.</p><p>And with both issues, I\u2019d called their service number outside of their business hours, and their answering service forwarded my concerns along and I got <em>immediate</em> contact, direct from the sales representative I worked with, as soon as they opened!</p><p>They also gave me the best offer on my old car by far, <em>and</em> worked really hard to get me every possible tax credit on the vehicle (the best one being the sales tax credit from the trade-in to begin with), and gave me a clear and concise explanation for why the ones I couldn\u2019t get weren\u2019t available. Not that it matters \u2014 the original price on the Niro was already ridiculously low, and the fact they\u2019ve paid an additional $1000 to fix the issues mentioned above is a nice bonus on top.</p><p>This is 100% my own opinion, unsolicited, and I earn no commission or affiliate fee for saying this.</p><p>I honestly feel that CarMax is how <em>all</em> car dealerships should be.</p><p>The only thing I disliked about the whole experience is that they still aren\u2019t quite equipped for EV sales, and don\u2019t list things like range specs or show the battery condition on the inspection report. (For battery condition you really should bring an OBD-II scanner and an appropriate app, anyway. My Niro was still at 100%.) This is such an incredibly minor concern that I feel like it almost isn\u2019t even worth mentioning, and as EVs get more popular this issue will definitely go away anyway.</p><p>So, yeah. CarMax is such a good experience. They are absolutely the way that car sales should be.</p>"
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I felt the #earthquake here in #SanFrancisco. A single quick sharp jolt with rapid decay, duration less than 2s, meaning it was relatively nearby and small in magnitude
I was about to say, perhaps #earthquakes are the last use-case for #Twitter because yes I reflexively checked it and did see posts about it from folks, including a few friends.
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"text": "I felt the #earthquake here in #SanFrancisco. A single quick sharp jolt with rapid decay, duration less than 2s, meaning it was relatively nearby and small in magnitude\n\nI was about to say, perhaps #earthquakes are the last use-case for #Twitter because yes I reflexively checked it and did see posts about it from folks, including a few friends.\n\nThen I checked https://indieweb.social/tags/earthquake and it has plenty of recent #fediverse posts about the earthquake, several @sfba.social.\n\nFeels like something big has shifted. \n\nThe #federated #IndieWeb has replaced another #socialMedia silo use-case.\n\nThis is post 7 of #100PostsOfIndieWeb. #100Posts\n\n\u2190 https://tantek.com/2024/027/t1/indieweb-ideals-systems-swappable\n\u2192 \ud83d\udd2e\n\n\nPost glossary:\n\nsilo\n\u00a0 https://indieweb.org/silo\nsocial media\n\u00a0 https://indieweb.org/social_media\nuse-case\n\u00a0 https://indieweb.org/use_case",
"html": "I felt the #<span class=\"p-category\">earthquake</span> here in #<span class=\"p-category\">SanFrancisco</span>. A single quick sharp jolt with rapid decay, duration less than 2s, meaning it was relatively nearby and small in magnitude<br /><br />I was about to say, perhaps #<span class=\"p-category\">earthquakes</span> are the last use-case for #<span class=\"p-category\">Twitter</span> because yes I reflexively checked it and did see posts about it from folks, including a few friends.<br /><br />Then I checked <a href=\"https://indieweb.social/tags/earthquake\">https://indieweb.social/tags/earthquake</a> and it has plenty of recent #<span class=\"p-category\">fediverse</span> posts about the earthquake, several <a href=\"https://sfba.social\">@sfba.social</a>.<br /><br />Feels like something big has shifted. <br /><br />The #<span class=\"p-category\">federated</span> #<span class=\"p-category\">IndieWeb</span> has replaced another #<span class=\"p-category\">socialMedia</span> silo use-case.<br /><br />This is post 7 of #<span class=\"p-category\">100PostsOfIndieWeb</span>. #<span class=\"p-category\">100Posts</span><br /><br />\u2190 <a href=\"https://tantek.com/2024/027/t1/indieweb-ideals-systems-swappable\">https://tantek.com/2024/027/t1/indieweb-ideals-systems-swappable</a><br />\u2192 \ud83d\udd2e<br /><br /><br />Post glossary:<br /><br />silo<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/silo\">https://indieweb.org/silo</a><br />social media<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/social_media\">https://indieweb.org/social_media</a><br />use-case<br />\u00a0 <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/use_case\">https://indieweb.org/use_case</a>"
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"published": "2024-02-02 14:18-0800",
"url": "https://gregorlove.com/2024/02/delightful-music-re-discovery/",
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"text": "Delightful music re-discovery: Emancipator. Good chill, electronic music to work to. Currently listening to 2022\u2019s 11th Orbit.",
"html": "<p>Delightful music re-discovery: Emancipator. Good chill, electronic music to work to. Currently listening to 2022\u2019s <i><a href=\"https://album.link/i/1631967519\">11th Orbit</a></i>.</p>"
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"published": "2024-02-02T00:00:00-08:00",
"url": "https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/12903-Bandcamp-Friday-February-2024-edition",
"name": "Bandcamp Friday, February 2024 edition",
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"text": "I don\u2019t have any new releases on my bandcamp but if you\u2019re interested in a wide variety of music, it is there for the buying, and during Bandcamp Friday none of the money from that goes to Songtradr/Bandcamp.This weekend, you can also buy anything in my discography, including my entire discography, for 50% off using discount code TOOMUCHMUSIC.And as usual I\u2019m also trying to hype up others. This month I\u2019m planning on buying:\nA ska tribute to They Might Be Giants\nPatricia Taxxon\u2019s latest\nSome weird abstract electronic stuff\nAll of the music of Aran P. Ink",
"html": "<p>I don\u2019t have any new releases on <a href=\"https://sockpuppet.us/\">my bandcamp</a> but if you\u2019re interested in a wide variety of music, it is there for the buying, and during <a href=\"https://isitbandcampfriday.com/\">Bandcamp Friday</a> none of the money from that goes to Songtradr/Bandcamp.</p><p>This weekend, you can also buy anything in my discography, including my entire discography, for 50% off using discount code TOOMUCHMUSIC.</p><p>And as usual I\u2019m also trying to hype up others. This month I\u2019m planning on buying:</p>\n<ul><li><a href=\"https://rudyreboots.bandcamp.com/album/rudy-reboots-giants-a-ska-punk-tribute-to-they-might-be-giants\">A ska tribute to They Might Be Giants</a></li>\n<li><a href=\"https://patriciataxxon.bandcamp.com/album/bicycle\">Patricia Taxxon\u2019s latest</a></li>\n<li><a href=\"https://mrbill.bandcamp.com/album/the-collaborative-endeavors\">Some weird abstract electronic stuff</a></li>\n<li>All of the music of <a href=\"https://apink.bandcamp.com/music\">Aran P. Ink</a>\n</li>\n</ul>"
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My relationship with my city changed when I came to #Portland. Before that, I always had the general impression that I lived in my “house” and that house merely happened to be located in a city/town/countryside/etc. But upon moving to Portland, Oregon and really embracing an urban lifestyle, my perspective changed. Now I live in Portland. My house is nothing more than the residence I am physically placed in at various times for sleep, recreation, and remote work. But I also regularly engage in both work and recreation elsewhere in the city, and those places mean every bit as much to me as anywhere I might lay my head at night.
I suppose that may sound quite strange to someone who is very emotionally and nostalgically attached to their literal dwelling. Maybe it’s a personality thing… All I can tell you—as someone who is currently a renter—I have owned my own home in the past and…I ended up hating it. Resenting it.
My allegiance is to a city…MY city…not any particular residential unit within it.
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"text": "I contacted CarMax about the missing EVSE, and they pointed me to a hidden compartment for service equipment, thinking it might have been hiding in there. The EVSE wasn\u2019t in there either, but there was the \u201ctire mobility kit,\u201d so it\u2019s good that I have the official one too!Anyway CarMax is going to order me a replacement EVSE as well. Nice.I suspect they saw the NACS adapter and confused it for an EVSE, which is easy to do \u2014 I\u2019d made the same mistake during my test drive and walkaround!But yeah so far I am very happy with the CarMax experience.",
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For the #IndieWeb ideals of independence from intermediaries, not requiring corporate platforms or other organizational intermediaries¹, the best systems we have still depend on organizations. However they are all swappable, at will, by the individual:
1. domain names, depend on registrars, which you can switch 2. web hosts, depend on hosting providers, which you can switch 3. internet access, depends on internet service providers, which you can switch 4. web browsing, depends on browsers, which you can switch 5. personal devices, that have choice of web browser and internet access, which you can switch, upgrade, and use multiples of simultaneously
When you can migrate from one provider to another, one device to another, without disruption, without breaking your people-to-people connections, the providers and devices serve you, instead of gatekeeping you.
This freedom to swap, freedom to choose, depends on practical #interoperability across multiple implementations, multiple services. Open standards are the means to encouraging, testing, and verifying this user-feature interoperability across implementations and services.
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The #IndieWeb is for everyone, everyone who wants to be part of the world-wide-web of interconnected people. The social internet of people, a network of networks of people, connected peer-to-peer in human-scale groups, communities of locality and affinity.
These peer-to-peer links should not require corporate platforms or other organizational intermediaries, nor should they require depending on developer intermediaries, nor server administrator intermediaries.
This is the "indie" in IndieWeb, independence from intermediaries, not independence from people. Because the "web" in IndieWeb, is yes the Web of the World Wide Web, and it is also the Web of people.
The "indie" in IndieWeb is also the independent agency to opt-into human-scale groups, opt-into peer-to-peer connections, opt-into communities, opt-into publics. As the POSSE page says: “Figure out how you want to fit into the network”.
The "web" in IndieWeb is also an open acknowledgment and acceptance that regardless of what groups, connections, communities, and publics you opt-into, that they are all interconnected in a larger web, that even without connecting, you can accept and respect from a distance.
The IndieWeb is for everyone, everyone who wants independence from organizations, independence of agency to associate, and who embraces the web of humans that want to interconnect, to communicate, to value and respect each other, whether one degree apart or thirty.¹
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