Webmentions are great! I’ve been using them since 2017 and it’s changed the way I interact. I just wrote an article about how I got into Webmention and other IndieWeb technologies. Give it a read (https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/07/20/11/article/) and join us (https://indieweb.org/discuss)
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That’s a great idea. I’m doing something similar. I’m in the process of leaving Facebook, so I created three topics (Personal, Family, Tech) that people could sign up for. I have a monthly email that sends posts that are of the topics the person is interested in.
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You’ve probably seen me ramble on about “IndieWeb” the last few years. Here’s a great A List Apart article on webmentions, the core of how we can start interacting from our own website instead of silos.
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This is part 1 of at least a 4 part series about the IndieWeb and my involvement with it so far. I hope it presents both some technical aspects of the IndieWeb but more so introduces how the IndieWeb experience is personal and is shaped by each individual.
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That’s great, thanks! I don’t see a problem with it being part of the same issue. If someone else working on Vouch does, they’ll leave a comment in the issue. As Vouch is relatively new in actual implementation, it’s great to have as many eyes on it as possible
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Let the rabbit hole take you in!! 🙃 I’m slightly kidding, but also serious. I embraced the rabbit hole a year and a half ago. Best thing I ever did tech-wise!
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Those are some valid concerns. One thing I’d like to point out at the bottom of the spec is a link to Vouch, which is an anti-spam extension to Webmention that is in development (https://indieweb.org/Vouch)
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This is a great description by Chris of the problems that webmentions aim to solve.
If you use Twitter, your friend Alice only uses Facebook, your friend Bob only uses his blog on WordPress, and your pal Chuck is over on Medium, it’s impossible for any one of you to @mention another. You’re all on different and competing platforms, none of which interoperate to send these mentions or notifications of them. The only way to communicate in this way is if you all join the same social media platforms, resulting in the average person being signed up to multiple services just to stay in touch with all their friends and acquaintances.
Given the issues of privacy and identity protection, different use cases, the burden of additional usernames and passwords, and the time involved, many people don’t want to do this. Possibly worst of all, your personal identity on the internet can end up fragmented like a Horcrux across multiple websites over which you have little, if any, control.
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The web can be used to find common connections with folks you find interesting, and who don’t make you feel like so much of a weirdo. It’d be nice to be able to do this in a safe space that is not being surveilled.
Owning your own content, and publishing to a space you own can break through some of these barriers. Sharing your own weird scraps on your own site makes you easier to find by like-minded folks. If you’ve got no tracking on your site (no Google Analytics etc), you are harder to profile. People can’t come to harass you on your own site if you do not offer them the means to do so
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@evertp After having gotten Webmention working, you might consider stopping by the IndieWeb chat to ask this question of folks like @aaronpk, @t, @kevinmarks, and others who might provide some guidance/suggestions. As a group, they've been able to shepherd 3 specs to W3C Recommendation in almost as many years. We could all use some help on so many different levels.
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@qubyte And here I thought that I was the only one in the intersection of the Venn diagram of the universe that included the words quantum, information theory, and webmentions! Perhaps we should start a club?
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@essenmitsosse Sharp eye. There's an extension to webmention called vouch to guard against abuse. https://indieweb.org/Vouch
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hmmm that’s really strange! Do you have the newest version of IndieAuth the plugin? It’s had to go through a lot of updates recently, but the newest version should work good.
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There’s a great introduction to Webmention over at A List Apart today.
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So investigating Micropub and mf2 syntax to test out in this app, it looks like we’d use h-measure which is a proposed property.
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Brad, how can you not be logged into the IndieWeb wiki yet!?! You've got your own domain and you've got an IndieAuth endpoint. Click on the login link, put your URL into the field and authenticate. You won't get frog marched anywhere, I promise. If you have questions or need help troubleshooting how to login or editing the page, feel free to pop into chat https://chat.indieweb.org/indieweb/ and we'll all help you out! :)
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When you send a second webmention, Bridgy replies with: Sorry, you’ve already published that page, and Bridgy Publish doesn’t yet support updating or deleting existing posts.
It would help to add a “url” attribute that provides the url of the previous syndication. This would allow me to send webmentions for posts that had previously be syndicated and get the URL of that syndication into my system :)
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In town for the Decentralized Web Summit August 1-2 and not otherwise busy on July 31st?
Mozilla invites you to a complementary (and complimentary) all day Decentralized Web Hackers Day and IndieWebCamp SF at our Mozilla San Francisco offices.
Spend a day creating the web you want collaborating with others doing the same, using the latest in decentralized and indieweb technologies.
Schedule 10:00 Opening keynotes and lightning intros/demos 11:00 BarCamp breakout session scheduling 11:30 Open hack day and discussion sessions 16:00 Lightning Demos! 17:00 Wrap-up and transit to DWeb pre-party
We will open the day with a few brief introductory keynotes to set the stage and get your creativity flowing, followed by a round of lightning intros/demos by participants who want to (yes that means you!)
In our usual BarCamp style, we’ll spend a few minutes having participants propose different discussion/hacking sessions for the day and pick rooms & time slots. Sessions will start promptly after scheduling. Don’t worry if this is your first time participating in a BarCamp, we will explain the process for everyone and especially make sure newcomers get a chance to propose their session ideas.
Final sessions and hacking will wrap at 16:00 and we will all reconvene in the main room for a round of lightning demos of hacks, insights, whatever you made or thought up.
Afterwards we’ll direct you to local transit that will take you to the Internet Archive for the Decentralized Web Summit Science Faire and Pre-party (requires separate registration)
Any questions? Ask in #indieweb Slack or IRC
More information: IndieWeb Wiki Event Page
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After IndieWebCamp Austin last year, we let the Homebrew Website Club meetups kind of fade away. Time to reboot it. August 1st, 6:30pm at Mozart’s Coffee.
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