Oops something went wrong with my Bridgy syndication so there’s some missing bits to this convo. This issue is being closed because the issue is actually with webmention.io
See https://aaronparecki.com/2018/07/21/5/ for more info
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Hmm odd! I see it as “activity: rsvp” in the webmention.io mentions endpoint. I’m not sure how to link to that, though.
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@HowellsMead For those familiar, it may be a useful shorthand, but it simplifies things too far. Webmention uses knowledge of prior history and abuses of Trackback/Pingbacks/Refbacks and improves on them.
Cross reference: https://indieweb.org/Webmention-developer and https://indieweb.org/Vouch
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@dixongexpat @eatpodcast Had you come across this yet? https://indieweb.org/Grav#Webmention
@voxpelli may be able to point out documentation or help as well.
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@granderojo You might find some useful inspiration at https://indieweb.org.
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Webmentions are great! I’ve been using them since 2017 and it’s changed the way I interact. I just wrote an article about how I got into Webmention and other IndieWeb technologies. Give it a read (https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/07/20/11/article/) and join us (https://indieweb.org/discuss)
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That’s a great idea. I’m doing something similar. I’m in the process of leaving Facebook, so I created three topics (Personal, Family, Tech) that people could sign up for. I have a monthly email that sends posts that are of the topics the person is interested in.
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You’ve probably seen me ramble on about “IndieWeb” the last few years. Here’s a great A List Apart article on webmentions, the core of how we can start interacting from our own website instead of silos.
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This is part 1 of at least a 4 part series about the IndieWeb and my involvement with it so far. I hope it presents both some technical aspects of the IndieWeb but more so introduces how the IndieWeb experience is personal and is shaped by each individual.
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That’s great, thanks! I don’t see a problem with it being part of the same issue. If someone else working on Vouch does, they’ll leave a comment in the issue. As Vouch is relatively new in actual implementation, it’s great to have as many eyes on it as possible
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Let the rabbit hole take you in!! 🙃 I’m slightly kidding, but also serious. I embraced the rabbit hole a year and a half ago. Best thing I ever did tech-wise!
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Those are some valid concerns. One thing I’d like to point out at the bottom of the spec is a link to Vouch, which is an anti-spam extension to Webmention that is in development (https://indieweb.org/Vouch)
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This is a great description by Chris of the problems that webmentions aim to solve.
If you use Twitter, your friend Alice only uses Facebook, your friend Bob only uses his blog on WordPress, and your pal Chuck is over on Medium, it’s impossible for any one of you to @mention another. You’re all on different and competing platforms, none of which interoperate to send these mentions or notifications of them. The only way to communicate in this way is if you all join the same social media platforms, resulting in the average person being signed up to multiple services just to stay in touch with all their friends and acquaintances.
Given the issues of privacy and identity protection, different use cases, the burden of additional usernames and passwords, and the time involved, many people don’t want to do this. Possibly worst of all, your personal identity on the internet can end up fragmented like a Horcrux across multiple websites over which you have little, if any, control.
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The web can be used to find common connections with folks you find interesting, and who don’t make you feel like so much of a weirdo. It’d be nice to be able to do this in a safe space that is not being surveilled.
Owning your own content, and publishing to a space you own can break through some of these barriers. Sharing your own weird scraps on your own site makes you easier to find by like-minded folks. If you’ve got no tracking on your site (no Google Analytics etc), you are harder to profile. People can’t come to harass you on your own site if you do not offer them the means to do so
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@evertp After having gotten Webmention working, you might consider stopping by the IndieWeb chat to ask this question of folks like @aaronpk, @t, @kevinmarks, and others who might provide some guidance/suggestions. As a group, they've been able to shepherd 3 specs to W3C Recommendation in almost as many years. We could all use some help on so many different levels.
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@qubyte And here I thought that I was the only one in the intersection of the Venn diagram of the universe that included the words quantum, information theory, and webmentions! Perhaps we should start a club?
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@essenmitsosse Sharp eye. There's an extension to webmention called vouch to guard against abuse. https://indieweb.org/Vouch
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hmmm that’s really strange! Do you have the newest version of IndieAuth the plugin? It’s had to go through a lot of updates recently, but the newest version should work good.
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There’s a great introduction to Webmention over at A List Apart today.
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