If you’re reading this, interact with it. This is a slight experiment in reach in the IndieWeb.
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Announcing my talk at OggCamp 2019 about the IndieWeb.
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So I’m posting to my site that uses a service called Bridgy to syndicate my content to Twitter (as well as giving me a reference URL so I can keep a link on my site). A bunch of IndieWeb goodness
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Speaking of IndieWeb Summit, on a smaller scale we are finally restarting the Homebrew Website Club in Austin. Next meetup is July 3rd, 6:30pm at Mozart’s Coffee. We’ll talk about sessions and projects from IndieWeb Summit.
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This week’s guest on Micro Monday is @jgmac1106. Greg talks to Jean about the upcoming IndieWeb Summit and more.
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No worries! If you do wanna talk shop with some people about it; there’s usually someone around at http://indieweb.org/discuss! But to your original question; it’s a clean way to prevent duplication of semantic information as one can get out of date/sync. Meant to encourage intentional markup versus just jamming anything in there with microformats.
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To a degree, the IndieWeb provides that. That’s how I’m replying to this from my site. There’s a interest in backfeeding and bridge building in the IndieWeb. But the case of keeping content “organic” is sound.
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Did you mean microformats? Webmentions are just (largely) requests being sent back and forth.
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Finally cozy. Might try my hand at some Wiki gardening of https://indieweb.org and then of my personal site then sleep.
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Walking by the place where IndieWeb Summit was held last year!
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I leave tonight to make it to PDX for the IndieWeb Summit. Barely packed or ready, lol.
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Also I do apologise to the IndieWeb heads following me for the noisy timeline. I’m looking to stitch together a more ‘normal’ stream. Perhaps replies, notes and articles online?
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Thanks! I hope to show that (at least with Shortcuts on iOS), it’s possible to “be the mobile layer over IndieWeb building blocks” you want to see in the world.
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I share a lot of these syndication frustrations, since I don’t want to build it into my site’s backend. For Wordpress sites I think it can be automated with plugins (brid.gy syndication links?).
I’m considering getting a Shortcuts flow going before Summit. 😅 Long term I would love a service that does this with Micropub.
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I’d be interested in seeing how IndieWeb and Dat stuff can intermingle!
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"html": "<p>I remember paying for an app.net account. App.net was also touted as <a href=\"http://www.buzzfeed.com/phenatypical/is-appnet-the-beginning-of-white-flight-from-fa\">saving people</a> from Twitter. Whatever happened to app.net? Could that happen to micro.blog?</p>\n<blockquote><p>\n I am, in fact, thinking of trying to woo some esoteric friends off twitter and onto here, though I\u2019ll be guiding them to use micro.blog for free because the economics doesn\u2019t work out for everybody around the world.\n</p></blockquote>\n<p>I have tried to do the same. However, it is challenging to articulate the value of doing so. What is the value of free micro.blog over free Twitter? And if my friends aren\u2019t on micro.blog, it\u2019s not a social network.</p>\n<p>Jean MacDonald, community manager at Micro.blog, wrote in a thread that <a href=\"https://micro.blog/macgenie/2727934\">\u2026many of the people who sign up for an account aren\u2019t interested in the social component</a>. That means that most of the user base is looking for a blogging platform. That makes <strong><em>discovering</em></strong> community more challenging.</p>\n<p>Discovery on micro.blog is challenging by design.</p>\n<blockquote><p>\n In our quest to keep people safe from harassment or harmful viral waves of trolling, we limit the usual parts of a social network like search and trending posts for discovering new people. We do want like-minded people to be able to find each other on Micro.blog. We tried a few strategies in the beginning: a short list of people to follow, then a photo gallery of the images that microbloggers were posting. Neither was really working for us or for the community.<br />\u2026<br />But for Discover we want to provide an easy-to-skim cross section of posts, so the culling is done by hand: no algorithm, no upvoting, no promotions. And from the response we\u2019ve received, it is a very popular feature with the community.</p>\n<p> The curation is done by me and Manton.<a href=\"https://micro.welltempered.net/2019/06/13/curating-the-microblog.html\">Jean MacDonald</a><br /></p></blockquote>\n<p>By design, the Discover feed lacks a diversity of viewpoint. Manton tried so hard to remove what he thinks is negative about Twitter, that on micro.blog, two white people get to decide who gets discovered. How can I trust whatever inherent bias they may be brought to that process? How do I know that they aren\u2019t pushing their agenda? But whatever, it\u2019s their house. Their rules.</p>\n<blockquote><p>\n Second, micro.blog is an interesting experiment in blog comments. The other day, I saw your post about house parties and responded. I knew I could respond right here, but I had a little more to say, so I put it on my blog and let that reflect here. That exchange can happen independently too, but this centralization of feeds is difficult to attain. We\u2019re all avid users of RSS readers, but with that comes its own challenges. In some senses, micro.blog is my people feed reader, while my other feeds readers are relegated to follow webcomics and networking news.\n</p></blockquote>\n<p>My website supports Webmention as well as WordPress.com comments as well as pulling in replies from for syndicated links via Twitter, Flickr, Instagram. To paraphrase you \u201cIn some senses, [Twitter] is my people feed reader\u201d. micro.blog could be just another comment stream, albeit at this point a very small one. micro.blog provides no unique value in that regard.</p>\n<blockquote><p>\n Third, any tool is what you put into it.\n</p></blockquote>\n<p>I\u2019m not sure what you mean by that. I don\u2019t want to make assumptions, but my initial reaction was, \u201cis he saying it\u2019s my fault that I feel left out\u201c.</p>\n<p>I already have Twitter. I already host my website on a domain I own. I have done so for over 15 years. When I post a link to Twitter, I can add hashtags to help like-minded communities on Twitter find me and my content. Likewise, I can use has tags to find like-minded communities with whom to engage. And the communities on Twitter are more diverse than what\u2019s available on micro.blog.</p>\n<p>The user base on micro.blog is mostly software developers. I could yak all day about topics of interest to me, but only a small handful of people would see those post. Unless like-minded people view and interact with those post, I have no way of knowing they exist.</p>\n<p>Others have suggested ways to keep discovery useful while toning down the negative:</p>\n<blockquote><p>\n Whilst search and tagging can be used to manipulate a platform and thus spoil it, as we have plainly seen across lots of social media platforms, implementation of them with as much care and consideration of the rest of Micro.blog would be a significant improvement for Discovery. Perhaps these features would be only available for Verified users (to verify yourself on Micro.blog involves either a paid account or enough effort for free users as to discourage malicious users).<a href=\"https://simonmumbles.micro.blog/2018/08/31/what-microblog-needs.html\">Simon Mumble</a>\n</p></blockquote>\n<p>Phoneboy, and early user and often quoted fan of micro.blog eventually stopped using the service.</p>\n<blockquote><p>\n The diversity of participants and resulting conversations are somewhat limited and are likely to remain so. This might suit some people just fine, but I appreciate people of different races, creeds, colors, economic backgrounds, and even those with differing political opinions. The kind of people you might find on a more mainstream social media service or the right Mastodon instance.<a href=\"https://phoneboy.com/2018/01/13/a-self-hosted-wordpress-blog-with-micro-blog/\">Phoneboy</a>\n</p></blockquote>\n<p>I\u2019m an <a href=\"https://www.jaha.org/edu/discovery_center/community/peopling_pa02.html\">immigrant</a> to the USA. I sometimes feel like other even after three decades of living in the USA.</p>\n<blockquote><p>\n Lastly, deleting your account \u2013 I know it\u2019s the cleaner thing to do. It severs your ties, Manton is obligated to delete your data, it removes the mindshare micro.blog takes from you, etc. And frankly, you\u2019d be better off deleting your account than mindlessly posting to it like a bot, or like dave. But not deleting it gives you the opportunity to come back whenever you want. If you want to keep the connection open, however tenuous, keep this account in your back pocket for a rainy day.\n</p></blockquote>\n<p>I wonder why Dave doesn\u2019t interact on micro.blog? In any case, mindlessly posting like a bot is what I had been doing the last few months. There is no reason to talk to myself.</p>\n<p>I\u2019ve quoted Ben Weirdmuller <a href=\"https://islandinthenet.com/thoughts-on-micro-blog/\">before</a>. In this post, Ben writes about leaving the silos behind completely.</p>\n<blockquote><p>\n I think it might be more effective to move all the value away: publish on your own site, and use independent readers like Woodwind or Newsblur to consume content. Forget using social networks as the conduit. Let\u2019s go full indie.<a href=\"https://werd.io/2018/im-done-with-syndication-lets-help-people-be-themselves-on\">Ben Weirdmuller</a>\n</p></blockquote>\n<p>Perhaps I\u2019m struggling with the decision to do that.</p>",
"text": "I remember paying for an app.net account. App.net was also touted as saving people from Twitter. Whatever happened to app.net? Could that happen to micro.blog?\n\n I am, in fact, thinking of trying to woo some esoteric friends off twitter and onto here, though I\u2019ll be guiding them to use micro.blog for free because the economics doesn\u2019t work out for everybody around the world.\n\nI have tried to do the same. However, it is challenging to articulate the value of doing so. What is the value of free micro.blog over free Twitter? And if my friends aren\u2019t on micro.blog, it\u2019s not a social network.\nJean MacDonald, community manager at Micro.blog, wrote in a thread that \u2026many of the people who sign up for an account aren\u2019t interested in the social component. That means that most of the user base is looking for a blogging platform. That makes discovering community more challenging.\nDiscovery on micro.blog is challenging by design.\n\n In our quest to keep people safe from harassment or harmful viral waves of trolling, we limit the usual parts of a social network like search and trending posts for discovering new people. We do want like-minded people to be able to find each other on Micro.blog. We tried a few strategies in the beginning: a short list of people to follow, then a photo gallery of the images that microbloggers were posting. Neither was really working for us or for the community.\n\u2026\nBut for Discover we want to provide an easy-to-skim cross section of posts, so the culling is done by hand: no algorithm, no upvoting, no promotions. And from the response we\u2019ve received, it is a very popular feature with the community.\n The curation is done by me and Manton.Jean MacDonald\n\nBy design, the Discover feed lacks a diversity of viewpoint. Manton tried so hard to remove what he thinks is negative about Twitter, that on micro.blog, two white people get to decide who gets discovered. How can I trust whatever inherent bias they may be brought to that process? How do I know that they aren\u2019t pushing their agenda? But whatever, it\u2019s their house. Their rules.\n\n Second, micro.blog is an interesting experiment in blog comments. The other day, I saw your post about house parties and responded. I knew I could respond right here, but I had a little more to say, so I put it on my blog and let that reflect here. That exchange can happen independently too, but this centralization of feeds is difficult to attain. We\u2019re all avid users of RSS readers, but with that comes its own challenges. In some senses, micro.blog is my people feed reader, while my other feeds readers are relegated to follow webcomics and networking news.\n\nMy website supports Webmention as well as WordPress.com comments as well as pulling in replies from for syndicated links via Twitter, Flickr, Instagram. To paraphrase you \u201cIn some senses, [Twitter] is my people feed reader\u201d. micro.blog could be just another comment stream, albeit at this point a very small one. micro.blog provides no unique value in that regard.\n\n Third, any tool is what you put into it.\n\nI\u2019m not sure what you mean by that. I don\u2019t want to make assumptions, but my initial reaction was, \u201cis he saying it\u2019s my fault that I feel left out\u201c.\nI already have Twitter. I already host my website on a domain I own. I have done so for over 15 years. When I post a link to Twitter, I can add hashtags to help like-minded communities on Twitter find me and my content. Likewise, I can use has tags to find like-minded communities with whom to engage. And the communities on Twitter are more diverse than what\u2019s available on micro.blog.\nThe user base on micro.blog is mostly software developers. I could yak all day about topics of interest to me, but only a small handful of people would see those post. Unless like-minded people view and interact with those post, I have no way of knowing they exist.\nOthers have suggested ways to keep discovery useful while toning down the negative:\n\n Whilst search and tagging can be used to manipulate a platform and thus spoil it, as we have plainly seen across lots of social media platforms, implementation of them with as much care and consideration of the rest of Micro.blog would be a significant improvement for Discovery. Perhaps these features would be only available for Verified users (to verify yourself on Micro.blog involves either a paid account or enough effort for free users as to discourage malicious users).Simon Mumble\n\nPhoneboy, and early user and often quoted fan of micro.blog eventually stopped using the service.\n\n The diversity of participants and resulting conversations are somewhat limited and are likely to remain so. This might suit some people just fine, but I appreciate people of different races, creeds, colors, economic backgrounds, and even those with differing political opinions. The kind of people you might find on a more mainstream social media service or the right Mastodon instance.Phoneboy\n\nI\u2019m an immigrant to the USA. I sometimes feel like other even after three decades of living in the USA.\n\n Lastly, deleting your account \u2013 I know it\u2019s the cleaner thing to do. It severs your ties, Manton is obligated to delete your data, it removes the mindshare micro.blog takes from you, etc. And frankly, you\u2019d be better off deleting your account than mindlessly posting to it like a bot, or like dave. But not deleting it gives you the opportunity to come back whenever you want. If you want to keep the connection open, however tenuous, keep this account in your back pocket for a rainy day.\n\nI wonder why Dave doesn\u2019t interact on micro.blog? In any case, mindlessly posting like a bot is what I had been doing the last few months. There is no reason to talk to myself.\nI\u2019ve quoted Ben Weirdmuller before. In this post, Ben writes about leaving the silos behind completely.\n\n I think it might be more effective to move all the value away: publish on your own site, and use independent readers like Woodwind or Newsblur to consume content. Forget using social networks as the conduit. Let\u2019s go full indie.Ben Weirdmuller\n\nPerhaps I\u2019m struggling with the decision to do that."
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