Replied to Indieweb Thoughts Post State of the Word by 
David Shanske
It has been a while since I wrote out some thoughts on where the Indieweb is on WordPress. Sitting here, after hearing Matt Mullenweg gave the State of the Word at WordCamp US, and after I assisting Tantek Çelik in his talk on Taking Back the Web, which was one of the contributing factors to my bei...
Thanks for all your work, David.
The WordPress IndieWeb ecosystem has enabled me to be a fully-fledged citizen of the IndieWeb. Everyone who has gotten it to where it is now is awesome! 
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@andymci @no thanks very much for the invitation! Would’ve loved to join y’all but had to catch a flight. Maybe the next #WordPress event we’re both at? Or an #IndieWeb event: https://indieweb.org/events And LMK when you’re next in SF!
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"text": "Making friends as an adult is hard. I\u2019ve talked about this with quite a few people and there is always strong agreement. I was a bit surprised by that. It seems like if it\u2019s a common sentiment, more people would be finding each other. I know that\u2019s quite a simplification, of course. Human social interactions are complex, life is busy, some people are butts, and some people already have a social circle they are content with.\n\nIt also takes some vulnerability to put yourself out there. I\u2019ve gone to a handful of San Diego meetups and made several acquaintances, but it takes something a little extra to move beyond that to a friendship. I\u2019ve been fairly outgoing in the past, but less so lately.\n\nI recently came across Joe Crawford via Twitter. I saw he was an indieweb enthusiast who also lives in San Diego, so I suggested we should meet up sometime. We met up for dinner and hit it off talking about a variety of web things and even some more personal things that I would not expect to be discussing with someone I just met, like mental health. It was refreshing.\n\nSpeaking of meetups, I went to another movie meetup today with Active Lifestyle Nerds. We saw Maleficent: Mistress of Evil then got Mexican for dinner. The movie and hangout time was good. I\u2019m starting to get to know some of them, so maybe there\u2019s some future friends there too.\n\nWhat has been your experience making new friends as an adult?",
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@andersnoren @kevinmarks thanks for the consideration, appreciated!
@dshanske is the real #WordPress Theme #microformats2 expert. I’m sure he can file good issues. @ChrisAldrich is also great at adding #microformats & #IndieWeb to a #WordPressTheme.
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Thank you @WordCampUS and thanks @photomatt for the invitation to speak on “Take Back Your Web”! Huge thanks to @dshanske for all his help!
Great questions & seeing so many with their own sites. Follow @dshanske’s awesome #WordPress #IndieWeb posts and progress on his own site e.g. https://david.shanske.com/kind/article/ He’ll also be at Contributor Day tomorrow!
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IndieWebCamp Austin will be February 22-23, 2020. Registration is now open! Just $10 for the weekend.
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Today at 2:30pm central time, Tantek Çelik is giving an IndieWeb talk — Take Back Your Web — at WordCamp US. Check out the livestream for room 240 to watch it live.
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Interested in becoming part of the #IndieWeb after @t's talk at #WCUS? I'm happy to help or answer questions. I've also got some WordPress specific experiments and documentation (on my own website, of course):
https://boffosocko.com/research/indieweb/
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The invited talk "Take Back Your Web" given by the thoughtful and Inimitable @t should be livestreaming in just a few minutes from WordCamp US
#IndieWeb #DoOO #WCUS
https://2019.us.wordcamp.org/session/take-back-your-web/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D547WuCZIaE
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Wishing I was at #WCUS today to hear my friend Tantek Çelik @t, web standards lead @Mozilla & @CSSwg, talk on "Take Back Your Web"
#WordPress #IndieWeb
Livestream: https://2019.us.wordcamp.org/livestream/saturday/#240 at 2:30PM Central
https://2019.us.wordcamp.org/session/take-back-your-web/
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In some personal news, I’ve been accepted into the GitHub Sponsors program & you can now sponsor my work on my IndieWeb Jekyll & WordPress themes or to work on other open source projects. More details soon.
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"text": "On Friday 2019-10-25 I participated in \nRedecentralize Conference 2019, a one-day unconference in London, England on the topics of decentralisation, privacy, autonomy, and digital infrastructure.\n\nI gave a \n3 minute lightning talk, \nhelped run an \nIndieWeb standards & methods \nsession in the first open slot of the day, and participated in two more sessions. The second open session had no Etherpad notes, so this post is from my one week ago memory recall.\n\nDecentralized lunch\n\nAfter the \nfirst open session of the day, the Redecentralize confrerence provided a nice informal buffet lunch for participants. Though we picked up our eats from a centralized buffet, people self-organized into their own distributed groups. There were a few folks I knew or had recently met, and many more that I had not. I sat with a few people who looked like they had just started talking and that\u2019s when I met Kate.\n\n\nI asked if she was running a session and she said yes in the next time slot, on decentralized identity and rethinking reputation. She also noted that she wanted to approach it from a human exploration perspective rather than a technical perspective, and was looking to learn from participants. I decided I\u2019d join, looking forward to a humans-first (rather than technology plumbing first) conversation and discussion.\n\nDiscussion circle\n\nAfter lunch everyone found their way to various sessions or corners of the space to work on their own projects. The space for Kate\u2019s session was an area in the middle of a large room, without a whiteboard or projector. About a half dozen of us assembled chairs in a rough oval to get started.\n\n\nAs we informally chatted a few more people showed up and we broadened our circle. 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If you build reputation in one system or service, how do you transfer that reputation to another?\nReset abuse. If you develop a bad repuation in a system, what is to stop you from deleting that identity, and creating a new one to reset your reputation?\n\n\nNo one had good answers for either. I offered one observation for the latter, which was that as reputation systems evolve over time, the lack of reputation, i.e. someone just starting out (or a reset), is seen as having a default negative reputation, that they have to prove otherwise. 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While \u201cno laptop\u201d meetings are often praised for focus & attention, they do have several downsides.\n\n\nFirst, no one is writing anything down, so follow-up discussions become difficult, or rather, it becomes likely that past discussions will be repeated without any new information. Caught in a loop. History repeating.\n\n\nSecond, with only speaking and no writing or note-taking, conversations tend to become more reactive, less thoughtful, and more about the individuals & personalities than about the subject matter.\n\n\nI noticed that one participant in particular was much more forceful and spoke a lot more than anyone else in the group, asserting all kinds of domain knowledge (usually without citation or reasoning). Normally I tend to question this kind of behavior, but this time I decided to listen and observe instead. On a session about reputation, how would this person\u2019s behavior affect their dynamic reputation in this group?\n\n\nEventually Kate was able to ask questions and prompt others who were quiet to speak-up, which was good to see. \n\nDecentralized identity\n\nWe did not get into any deep discussions of any specific decentralized identity systems, and that was perhaps ok. Mostly there discussion about the downsides of centrally controlled identity, and how each of us wanted more control over various aspects of our online identities.\n\n\nFor anyone who asked, I posited that a good way to start with decentralized identity was to \nbuy and use a personal domain name \nfor your primary online presence, \nsetting it up to sign-into sites, \nand build a reputation using that. Since you can pick the domain name, you can pick whatever facet(s) of your identity you wish to represent. It may not be perfectly distributed, however it does work today, and is a good way to explore a lot of the questions and challenges of decentralized identity.\n\nThe Nirvana Fallacy\n\nAnother challenge discussing various systems both critically, and aspirationally, was the inability to really assess how \u201creal\u201d any examples were, or applicable to any of us, or their usability, or even if they were deployed in any even experimental way instead of just being a white paper proposal.\n\n\nThis was a common theme in several sessions, that of comparing the downsides of real existing systems with the aspirational features of conceived but unimplemented systems. I had just recently come across a name for this phenomenon, and like many things you learn about, was starting to see it a lot: \nThe Nirvana Fallacy.\nI didn\u2019t bring it up in this session but rather tried to keep it in mind as a way to assess various comparisons.\n\nDistributed reputation\n\nAfter lunch sessions are always a bit of a challenge. People are full or tired. I myself was already feeling a bit spent from the lightning talk and the session Kevin and I had led right after that.\n\n\nAll in all it was a good discussion, even though we couldn\u2019t point to any notes or conclusions. It felt like everyone walked away having learned something from someone else, and in general people got to know each other in a semi-distributed way, starting to build reputation for future interactions.\n\n\nWatching that happen in-person made me wonder if there was some way to apply a similar kind of semi-structured group discussion dynamic as a method for building reputation in the online world. Could there be some way to parse out the dynamics of individual interactions in comments or threads to reflect that back to user in the form of customized per-person-pair reputations that you could view as a recent summary or trends over the years?\n\nPrevious #Redecentralize 2019 posts\nIndieWeb Decentralized Standards and Methods\nLightning talk: Showing redecentralization by example with my personal web site",
"html": "<p>On Friday 2019-10-25 I participated in \n<a href=\"https://redecentralize.org/events/2019-conference/\">Redecentralize Conference 2019</a>, a one-day unconference in London, England on the topics of decentralisation, privacy, autonomy, and digital infrastructure.\n</p>\n<p>I gave a \n<a href=\"http://tantek.com/2019/298/t1/lightning-talk-redecentralize-rdc19\">3 minute lightning talk</a>, \nhelped run an \n<a href=\"http://tantek.com/2019/301/b1/redecentralize-indieweb-standards-methods\">IndieWeb standards & methods</a> \nsession in the first open slot of the day, and participated in two more sessions. The second open session had no Etherpad notes, so this post is from my one week ago memory recall.\n</p>\n<h2>Decentralized lunch</h2>\n<p>\nAfter the \n<a href=\"http://tantek.com/2019/301/b1/redecentralize-indieweb-standards-methods\">first open session of the day</a>, the Redecentralize confrerence provided a nice informal buffet lunch for participants. Though we picked up our eats from a centralized buffet, people self-organized into their own distributed groups. There were a few folks I knew or had recently met, and many more that I had not. I sat with a few people who looked like they had just started talking and that\u2019s when I met Kate.\n</p>\n<p>\nI asked if she was running a session and she said yes in the next time slot, on decentralized identity and rethinking reputation. She also noted that she wanted to approach it from a human exploration perspective rather than a technical perspective, and was looking to learn from participants. I decided I\u2019d join, looking forward to a humans-first (rather than technology plumbing first) conversation and discussion.\n</p>\n<h2>Discussion circle</h2>\n<p>\nAfter lunch everyone found their way to various sessions or corners of the space to work on their own projects. The space for Kate\u2019s session was an area in the middle of a large room, without a whiteboard or projector. About a half dozen of us assembled chairs in a rough oval to get started.\n</p>\n<p>\nAs we informally chatted a few more people showed up and we broadened our circle. The space was a bit noisy with chatter drifting in from other sessions, yet we could hear each other we if leaned in a little. Kate started us off asking our opinions of the subject matter, experiences, and about existing approaches in contrast to letting any one company control identity and reputation.\n</p>\n<h2>Gaming of centralized systems</h2> \n<p>\nWe spent quite a bit of time on discussing existing online or digital reputation systems, and how portable or not these were. China was a subject of discussion along with the social reputation system that they had put in place that was starting to be used for various purposes. Someone provided the example of people putting their phones into little shaker machines to fake an increased stepcount to increase their reputation in that way. Apparently lots of people are gaming the Chinese systems in many ways. \n</p>\n<h2>Portability and resets</h2>\n<p>\nTwo major concerns were brought up about decentralized reputation systems.\n</p>\n<ol><li>Reputation portability. If you build reputation in one system or service, how do you transfer that reputation to another?</li>\n<li>Reset abuse. If you develop a bad repuation in a system, what is to stop you from deleting that identity, and creating a new one to reset your reputation?\n</li>\n</ol><p>\nNo one had good answers for either. I offered one observation for the latter, which was that as reputation systems evolve over time, the lack of reputation, i.e. someone just starting out (or a reset), is seen as having a default negative reputation, that they have to prove otherwise. 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While \u201cno laptop\u201d meetings are often praised for focus & attention, they do have several downsides.\n</p>\n<p>\nFirst, no one is writing anything down, so follow-up discussions become difficult, or rather, it becomes likely that past discussions will be repeated without any new information. Caught in a loop. History repeating.\n</p>\n<p>\nSecond, with only speaking and no writing or note-taking, conversations tend to become more reactive, less thoughtful, and more about the individuals & personalities than about the subject matter.\n</p>\n<p>\nI noticed that one participant in particular was much more forceful and spoke a lot more than anyone else in the group, asserting all kinds of domain knowledge (usually without citation or reasoning). Normally I tend to question this kind of behavior, but this time I decided to listen and observe instead. On a session about reputation, how would this person\u2019s behavior affect their dynamic reputation in this group?\n</p>\n<p>\nEventually Kate was able to ask questions and prompt others who were quiet to speak-up, which was good to see. \n</p>\n<h2>Decentralized identity</h2>\n<p>\nWe did not get into any deep discussions of any specific decentralized identity systems, and that was perhaps ok. Mostly there discussion about the downsides of centrally controlled identity, and how each of us wanted more control over various aspects of our online identities.\n</p>\n<p>\nFor anyone who asked, I posited that a good way to start with decentralized identity was to \n<a href=\"https://indieweb.org/personal-domain\">buy and use a personal domain name</a> \nfor your primary online presence, \n<a href=\"https://indieweb.org/How_to_set_up_web_sign-in_on_your_own_domain\">setting it up to sign-into sites</a>, \nand build a reputation using that. Since you can pick the domain name, you can pick whatever facet(s) of your identity you wish to represent. It may not be perfectly distributed, however it does work today, and is a good way to explore a lot of the questions and challenges of decentralized identity.\n</p>\n<h2>The Nirvana Fallacy</h2>\n<p>\nAnother challenge discussing various systems both critically, and aspirationally, was the inability to really assess how \u201creal\u201d any examples were, or applicable to any of us, or their usability, or even if they were deployed in any even experimental way instead of just being a white paper proposal.\n</p>\n<p>\nThis was a common theme in several sessions, that of comparing the downsides of real existing systems with the aspirational features of conceived but unimplemented systems. I had just recently come across a name for this phenomenon, and like many things you learn about, was starting to see it a lot: \n<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy\">The Nirvana Fallacy</a>.\nI didn\u2019t bring it up in this session but rather tried to keep it in mind as a way to assess various comparisons.\n</p>\n<h2>Distributed reputation</h2>\n<p>\nAfter lunch sessions are always a bit of a challenge. People are full or tired. I myself was already feeling a bit spent from the lightning talk and the session Kevin and I had led right after that.\n</p>\n<p>\nAll in all it was a good discussion, even though we couldn\u2019t point to any notes or conclusions. It felt like everyone walked away having learned something from someone else, and in general people got to know each other in a semi-distributed way, starting to build reputation for future interactions.\n</p>\n<p>\nWatching that happen in-person made me wonder if there was some way to apply a similar kind of semi-structured group discussion dynamic as a method for building reputation in the online world. Could there be some way to parse out the dynamics of individual interactions in comments or threads to reflect that back to user in the form of customized per-person-pair reputations that you could view as a recent summary or trends over the years?\n</p>\n<h2>Previous #Redecentralize 2019 posts</h2>\n<ul><li><a href=\"http://tantek.com/2019/301/b1/redecentralize-indieweb-standards-methods\">IndieWeb Decentralized Standards and Methods</a></li>\n<li><a href=\"http://tantek.com/2019/298/t1/lightning-talk-redecentralize-rdc19\">Lightning talk: Showing redecentralization by example with my personal web site</a></li>\n</ul>"
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Liked #Redecentralize 2019 Session: IndieWeb Decentralized Standards and Methods by 
Tantek Çelik
Kevin Marks wearing an IndieWebCamp t-shirt leading a discussion session with a projector screen next to him showing an indie event for Homebrew Website Club
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"text": "Remember when I wrote about adding travel maps to my site at the recent Indie Web Camp Brighton? I must confess that the last line I wrote was an attempt to catch a fish from the river of the lazy web:\n\n\n It\u2019s a shame that I can\u2019t use the lovely Stamen watercolour tiles for these static maps though.\n\n\nIn the spirit of Cunningham\u2019s Law, I was hoping that somebody was going to respond with \u201cIt\u2019s totally possible to use Stamen\u2019s watercolour tiles for static maps, dumbass\u2014look!\u201d (to which my response would have been \u201cthank you very much!\u201d).\n\nAlas, no such response was forthcoming. The hoped-for schooling never forthcame.\n\nStill, I couldn\u2019t quite let go of the idea of using those lovely watercolour maps somewhere on my site. But I had decided that dynamic maps would have been overkill for my archive pages:\n\n\n Sure, it looked good, but displaying the map required requests for a script, a style sheet, and multiple map tiles.\n\n\nThen I had a thought. What if I keep the static maps on my archive pages, but make them clickable? Then, on the other end of that link, I can have the dynamic version. In other words, what if I had a separate URL just for the dynamic maps?\n\nThese seemed like a good plan to me, so while I was travelling by Eurostar\u2014the only way to travel\u2014back from the lovely city of Antwerp where I had been speaking at Full Stack Europe, I started hacking away on making the dynamic maps even more dynamic. After all, now that they were going to have their own pages, I could go all out with any fancy features I wanted.\n\nI kept coming back to my original goal:\n\n\n I was looking for something more like the maps in Indiana Jones films\u2014a line drawn from place to place to show the movement over time.\n\n\nI found a plug-in for Leaflet.js that animates polylines\u2014thanks, Iv\u00e1n! With a bit of wrangling, I was able to get it to animate between the lat/lon points of whichever archive section the map was in. Rather than have it play out automatically, I also added a control so that you can start and stop the animation. While I was at it, I decided to make that \u201cplay/pause\u201d button do something else too. Ahem.\n\nIf you\u2019d like to see the maps in action, click the \u201cplay\u201d button on any of these maps:\n\n\nEverything from this August.\n\nLinks from June 2017.\n\nPhotos from October 2014.\n\nThe entirety of 2018\u2014that might take a while.\nYou get the idea. It\u2019s all very silly really. It\u2019s right up there with the time I made my sparklines playable. But that\u2019s kind of the point. It\u2019s my website so I can do whatever I want with it, no matter how silly.\n\nFirst of all, the research department for adactio.com (that\u2019s me) came up with the idea. Then that had to be sold in to upper management (that\u2019s me too). A team was spun up to handle design and development (consisting of me and me). Finally, the finished result went live thanks to the tireless efforts of the adactio.com ops group (that would be me). Any feedback should be directed at the marketing department (no idea who that is).",
"html": "<p>Remember when I wrote about <a href=\"https://adactio.com/journal/15992\">adding travel maps to my site</a> at the recent Indie Web Camp Brighton? I must confess that the last line I wrote was an attempt to catch a fish from the river of the lazy web:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>It\u2019s a shame that I can\u2019t use the lovely Stamen watercolour tiles for these static maps though.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>In the spirit of <a href=\"https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law\">Cunningham\u2019s Law</a>, I was hoping that somebody was going to respond with \u201cIt\u2019s totally possible to use Stamen\u2019s watercolour tiles for static maps, dumbass\u2014look!\u201d (to which my response would have been \u201cthank you very much!\u201d).</p>\n\n<p>Alas, no such response was forthcoming. The hoped-for schooling never forthcame.</p>\n\n<p>Still, I couldn\u2019t quite let go of the idea of using those lovely watercolour maps somewhere on my site. But I had decided that dynamic maps would have been overkill for my archive pages:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Sure, it looked good, but displaying the map required requests for a script, a style sheet, and multiple map tiles.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>Then I had a thought. What if I keep the static maps on my archive pages, but make them clickable? Then, on the other end of that link, I can have the dynamic version. In other words, what if I had a separate URL just for the dynamic maps?</p>\n\n<p>These seemed like a good plan to me, so while I was travelling by Eurostar\u2014the only way to travel\u2014back from the lovely city of Antwerp where I had been speaking at <a href=\"https://fullstackeurope.com/\">Full Stack Europe</a>, I started hacking away on making the dynamic maps even more dynamic. After all, now that they were going to have their own pages, I could go all out with any fancy features I wanted.</p>\n\n<p>I kept coming back to my original goal:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>I was looking for something more like <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TY5Fp6O5iM\">the maps in Indiana Jones films</a>\u2014a line drawn from place to place to show the movement over time.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I found a plug-in for <a href=\"https://leafletjs.com/\">Leaflet.js</a> that animates polylines\u2014thanks, <a href=\"https://ivan.sanchezortega.es/\">Iv\u00e1n</a>! With a bit of wrangling, I was able to get it to animate between the lat/lon points of whichever archive section the map was in. Rather than have it play out automatically, I also added a control so that you can start and stop the animation. While I was at it, I decided to make that \u201cplay/pause\u201d button do something else too. Ahem.</p>\n\n<p>If you\u2019d like to see the maps in action, click the \u201cplay\u201d button on any of these maps:</p>\n\n<ul><li>\n<a href=\"https://adactio.com/archive/2019/08/map\">Everything from this August</a>.</li>\n<li>\n<a href=\"https://adactio.com/links/archive/2017/06/map\">Links from June 2017</a>.</li>\n<li>\n<a href=\"https://adactio.com/notes/photos/2014/10/map\">Photos from October 2014</a>.</li>\n<li>\n<a href=\"https://adactio.com/archive/2018/map\">The entirety of 2018</a>\u2014that might take a while.</li>\n</ul><p>You get the idea. It\u2019s all very silly really. It\u2019s right up there with <a href=\"https://adactio.com/journal/12811\">the time I made my sparklines playable</a>. But that\u2019s kind of the point. It\u2019s my website so I can do whatever I want with it, no matter how silly.</p>\n\n<p>First of all, the research department for adactio.com (that\u2019s me) came up with the idea. Then that had to be sold in to upper management (that\u2019s me too). A team was spun up to handle design and development (consisting of me and me). Finally, the finished result went live thanks to the tireless efforts of the adactio.com ops group (that would be me). Any feedback should be directed at the marketing department (no idea who that is).</p>"
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It came to my attention after writing my blog post about how we choose the web we want that the pessimism is about not being able to make a living from blogging.
Brent gives an in-depth response to this concern about not making a living from blogging. It’s well worth a read. I could try to summarise it, but I think it’s better if you read the whole thing for yourself.
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Replying publicly to an email about my continual webmention sending.
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