I think I can expand the ????? a little bit:
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- Your microsub server notifies your social reader that there is a new post
To be honest, both of those bullets are kind of ??? themselves, as I don’t think any microsub server implementation has added WebSub. There’s an open issue for this for Aperture, for example.
Additionally, the Microsub spec doesn’t actually specify any streaming or real-time updates. There is an open issue for discussion this, though!
You’ve added to the discussion there with some fun extension ideas for EventSource and/or WebSockets, which sounds like a good approach to me!
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I’m thinking about “instant feedback” for my social reader. I’ve already considered some things like immediately showing a post in a channel once it’s been submitted but realistically that occurs when:
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The question markers would be replaced with things like “my chosen microsub server subscribes to my preferred WebSub hub” but that’d be the hub exposed by the feeds in a particular timeline, no? Thus triggering the need to re-poll the microsub server and update its timeline representation.
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Was wondering why the calendar entry for #HomebrewWebsiteClub Nottingham wasn't in my calendar - it's cause I'd got the date wrong on the event (doh!) - it's updated now and I hope to see you there tomorrow https://events.indieweb.org/2020/04/online-homebrew-website-club-nottingham-q0LsZr0uDBS7
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I think I’ll start working on my personal API endpoint that normalizes data from the outside world. I’m also done with introducing custom page support into Koype but I also need to work on fixing how Webmentions work when received.
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My #PersonalWebsite is https://www.jvt.me and as I'm very into owning my own data and being part of the #IndieWeb, I'm replying to this tweet from my website!
Site itself is Hugo and hosted on Netlify
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This might be the most insightful thing that Dan has written since his seminal 2013 Medium article:
The problem with Scrappy Doo, isn’t that he’s annoying, which he is, but that the ghosts suddenly became real, which is an afront to science.
I know this hot-take is about 40 years old, but I’ve been bottling it up.
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Have you tried the indiebookclub Micropub client? Based on my usage of that, I wrote up some brief thoughts about using separate citation and review posts. That doesn't capture reading progress yet, but it's on the list of things I'm thinking about for indiebookclub.
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Definitely doesn't work like that. I'm posting to this site through my own website, which means I own my content, not Twitter, and definitely not you #IndieWeb
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Thanks for sharing my site! As you say, I'm quite big with IndieWeb, and for readers there are quite a few other folks you'll want to see - https://snarfed.org/ https://tantek.com/ https://aaronparecki.com/ and https://www.barryfrost.com/ to name just a few.
If anyone is interested learning more about the IndieWeb, https://www.jvt.me/posts/2019/10/20/indieweb-talk/ is a transcript of a conference talk I gave on what the IndieWeb is
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As shared elsewhere on the site, I am very pro IndieWeb (https://indieweb.org) and therefore try to do everything via my own site.
I use https://brid.gy/ to syndicate posts from my own website (https://www.jvt.me/mf2/2020/04/svn4c/) to Twitter (https://twitter.com/JamieTanna/status/1254670009420431360) so I'm still owning my content, but I can still interact with folks on other platforms.
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Is the expectation for this that will contain all of the properties? Or could just be the URL/UID?
For instance, I've got a static site, so my Micropub endpoint would proxy a generated file from the site. If I can reduce the amount of properties to add to this, it'd be good, especially if this is really only being used for post listing.
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"text": "Is the expectation for this that will contain all of the properties? Or could just be the URL/UID?For instance, I've got a static site, so my Micropub endpoint would proxy a generated file from the site. If I can reduce the amount of properties to add to this, it'd be good, especially if this is really only being used for post listing.",
"html": "<p></p><p>Is the expectation for this that will contain all of the properties? Or could just be the URL/UID?</p><p>For instance, I've got a static site, so my Micropub endpoint would proxy a generated file from the site. If I can reduce the amount of properties to add to this, it'd be good, especially if this is really only being used for post listing.</p>"
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"text": "At the beginning of the year, Remy wrote about extracting Goodreads metadata so he could create his end-of-year reading list. More recently, Mark Llobrera wrote about how he created a visualisation of his reading history. In his case, he\u2019s using JSON to store the information.\n\nThis kind of JSON storage is exactly what Tom Critchlow proposes in his post, Library JSON - A Proposal for a Decentralized Goodreads:\n\n\nThinking through building some kind of \u201cweb of books\u201d I realized that we could use something similar to RSS to build a kind of decentralized GoodReads powered by indie sites and an underlying easy to parse format.\n\n\nHis proposal looks kind of similar to what Mark came up with. There\u2019s a title, an author, an image, and some kind of date for when you started and/or finished reading the book.\n\nMatt then points out that RSS gets close to the data format being suggested and asks how about using RSS?:\n\n\nRather than inventing a new format, my suggestion is that this is RSS plus an extension to deal with books. This is analogous to how the podcast feeds are specified: they are RSS plus custom tags.\n\n\nLike Matt, I\u2019m in favour of re-using existing wheels rather than inventing new ones, mostly to avoid a 927 situation.\n\nBut all of these proposals\u2014whether JSON or RSS\u2014involve the creation of a separate file, and yet the information is originally published in HTML. Along the lines of Matt\u2019s idea, I could imagine extending the h-entry collection of class names to allow for books (or films, or other media). It already handles images (with u-photo). I think the missing fields are the date-related ones: when you start and finish reading. Those fields are present in a different microformat, h-event in the form of dt-start and dt-end. Maybe they could be combined:\n\n\n<article class=\"h-entry h-event h-review\">\n<h1 class=\"p-name p-item\">Book title</h1>\n<img class=\"u-photo\" src=\"image.jpg\" alt=\"Book cover.\">\n<p class=\"p-summary h-card\">Book author</p>\n<time class=\"dt-start\" datetime=\"YYYY-MM-DD\">Start date</time>\n<time class=\"dt-end\" datetime=\"YYYY-MM-DD\">End date</time>\n<div class=\"e-content\">Remarks</div>\n<data class=\"p-rating\" value=\"5\">\u2605\u2605\u2605\u2605\u2605</data>\n<time class=\"dt-published\" datetime=\"YYYY-MM-DDThh:mm\">Date of this post</time>\n</article>\n\n\nThat markup is simultaneously a post (h-entry) and an event (h-event) and you can even throw in h-card for the book author (as well as h-review if you like to rate the books you read). It can be converted to RSS and also converted to .ics for calendars\u2014those parsers are already out there. It\u2019s ready for aggregation and it\u2019s ready for visualisation.\n\nI publish very minimal reading posts here on adactio.com. What little data is there isn\u2019t very structured\u2014I don\u2019t even separate the book title from the author. But maybe I\u2019ll have a little play around with turning these h-entries into combined h-entry/event posts.",
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It gets my homepage URL as the author property, but I don't expect it will handle fetching that and following the authorship specification. That's more indieweb-land than microformats2.
BTW, I'm gonna have a quick IndieWeb lunch Zoom at noon today. Link will be in chat.
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RSVPed: Attending Gardens and Streams: Wikis, blogs, and UI -- a pop up IndieWebCamp session
We'll be discussing and brainstorming ideas related to wikis and the IndieWeb, user interfaces, functionalities, examples of wikis and how they differ from blogs and other social media interfaces, and everyones' ideas surrounding these.
Phew, I just saw this! Should be a fun session on the link between blogs and (personal) wikis.
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Woo! InkStone now works with form encoded and JSON micropub posting! #indieweb
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testing to see if consumium has webmention support yet
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Micropub test of creating a basic h-entry
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