IndieWeb

Manton Reece www.manton.org

Sunlit 3.0 beta and source

Autonomy, digital self-determination, agency

July 22, 2020 6:47pm +00:00

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        "html": "<p>I\u2019m reading through <a href=\"https://commonplace.doubleloop.net/20200404101748-future_histories.html\">Future Histories</a> at the moment. The chapter linking the work of <a href=\"https://commonplace.doubleloop.net/20200402210005-frantz_fanon.html\">Frantz Fanon</a> to the ideas of <a href=\"https://commonplace.doubleloop.net/20200402213403-digital_self_determination.html\">digital self-determination</a> is very interesting and I am getting my head around some of the ideas.  <a href=\"https://commonplace.doubleloop.net/20200322114126-solid.html\">Solid</a> and <a href=\"https://commonplace.doubleloop.net/20200322114531-personal_data_store.html\">personal data pods</a> get a namecheck, which is pretty much <a href=\"https://commonplace.doubleloop.net/indieweb.html\">IndieWeb</a> just under a different guise.</p>\n<p>(Most of the chapter from the book is also available online here: <a href=\"https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/4369-fanon-and-digital-self-determination\">Fanon and (digital) self-determination</a>).</p>\n<blockquote><p>A better way to understand what we mean when we talk about privacy, then, is to see it as a right to self-determination. Self-determination is about self-governance, or determining one\u2019s own destiny.</p>\n<p>\u2013 <a href=\"https://commonplace.doubleloop.net/20200404101748-future_histories.html\">Future Histories</a></p></blockquote>\n<p>I think there are some parallels with what <a href=\"https://commonplace.doubleloop.net/20200317094029-ton.html\">Ton</a> said <a href=\"https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2020/07/14707/\">here</a>:</p>\n<blockquote><p>p2p networks weren\u2019t primarily about evading surveillance, evading copyright, or maintaining anonymity, but one of netwerk-resilience and not having someone with power over the \u2018off-switch\u2019 for the entire network</p></blockquote>\n<p>Future Histories:</p>\n<blockquote><p>digital privacy\u2014and its philosophical twin, freedom\u2014involves anonymity, secrecy, and <a href=\"https://commonplace.doubleloop.net/20200721194732-autonomy.html\">autonomy</a>. Autonomy is not just evading surveillance. Autonomy means the freedom to act without being controlled by others or manipulated by covert influences.</p>\n<p>\u2013 <a href=\"https://commonplace.doubleloop.net/20200404101748-future_histories.html\">Future Histories</a></p></blockquote>\n<p>I am going to read Ton\u2019s <a href=\"https://www.zylstra.org/blog/networked-agency/\">posts on networked agency</a>, as I feel like there is a connection there. (And they will be good, even if not).</p>\n<blockquote><p>Self-determination is both a collective and individual right, an idea of privacy that is much more expansive and politically oriented. It is about allowing people to communicate, read, organize and come up with better ways of doing things, sharing experiences across borders, without scrutiny or engineering, a kind of cyberpunk internationalism.</p>\n<p>\u2013 <a href=\"https://commonplace.doubleloop.net/20200404101748-future_histories.html\">Future Histories</a></p></blockquote>\n<p>Self-determination, autonomy, agency \u2013 it certainly does sound related.</p>",
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Jamie Tanna www.jvt.me

Reminder that it's #HomebrewWebsiteClub Nottingham tonight! I hope to see you there at 1730 for some website stuff! https://events.indieweb.org/2020/07/online-homebrew-website-club-nottingham-J6rKyTq3khYa

#homebrew-website-club

July 22, 2020 7:32am +00:00

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twitter.com/kixiQu/status/1285385119591620608

v2.jacky.wtf

Nothing’s stopping you! What makes a reply a “reply” is mentioned at https://indieweb.org/reply with a section on markup. You could make it “invisible” by making it a link with no text (any IndieWeb site should recognize that and rank it over an article when one attempts to run post type discovery https://indieweb.org/post-type-discovery

July 20, 2020 6:42pm -07:00

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Manton Reece www.manton.org

Coming up this Saturday, there’s a Micropub discussion session over Zoom. We’ll be reviewing some of the Micropub extensions people are using (including Micro.blog). Details on the IndieWeb events site.

July 20, 2020 11:34am -05:00

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vincentp.me/articles/2020/07/16/16-20/

Jamie Tanna www.jvt.me

I'm always interested to hear how other folks approach their (IndieWeb) architecture - this is a good read!

#indieweb

July 20, 2020 12:24pm +00:00

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twitter.com/b_cavello/status/1283888918937518080

Tantek Çelik tantek.com

@b_cavello, been reflecting. "immunity" not the goal. "#decentralisation" has been colonized by #blockchain snakeoil

Goals:
* agency+community instead of corp dominance
* humble interop, choices, direct practices
Like end of tweet #IndieWeb post links
which allow us to write and post more on our own sites,
and link to more resources like:
* https://indieweb.org/principles
* https://indieweb.org/why
* https://indieweb.org/start

We reject traditional "fast growth" capitalist narratives, and instead humbly encourage slow sustainable growth across numerous projects that interoperate with each other.

Longevity & dependability directly benefit the people participating, instead of shortterm excitement which typically only benefits investors (sometimes "serial" entrepreneurs).

Would love to chat more about these topics: https://chat.indieweb.org/ (There’s a Slack link there too to use Slack to join).

#blockchain #IndieWeb

July 19, 2020 2:51pm -07:00

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wwwtech.de/notes/500

v2.jacky.wtf

Those worked but since it was also done for every form of content, it began a bit burdensome to maintain as I begun this larger refactor. This is also part of my motivation to encourage more work on social IndieWeb readers :)

July 18, 2020 5:59am -07:00

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v2.jacky.wtf

It’s already under way. We have the protocol that can give us this (AS2 + Git): https://github.com/forgefed/forgefed. Just need a company vested on actually working on actual community tools and not a brand https://drewdevault.com/2018/07/23/Git-is-already-distributed.html https://twitter.com/nomadtechie/status/1284218230870085634. Some IndieWeb magic would help too.

July 17, 2020 4:05pm -07:00

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events.indieweb.org/2020/07/micropub-pop-up-session-kGMIMOXFUdBn

I will try to make it to “Micropub Pop-Up Session.” I may be a bit late.

July 17, 2020 3:31pm -07:00

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leportella.com/why-have-a-blog.html

Jeremy Keith adactio.com

Why you should have a blog (and write in it) | Leticia Portella

Having your independent blog is an excellent way to share what you think in a decentralized way, independent of any major company that may add a paywall to it (Medium, I am looking at you).

#indieweb #independent #publishing #blogging #writing #blogs #sharing #learning #teaching

July 17, 2020 8:59am +00:00

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v2.jacky.wtf/post/23652566-6fce-4725-b8d3-e62b75e1bd7f

v2.jacky.wtf

Oh, and I can load content from a post! https://micropublish.net/, I’m coming for ya, lol.

#koype publish #devlog

July 16, 2020 7:46pm -07:00

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fluffy beesbuzz.biz

Plaidophile: Stuff about webmention

July 16, 2020 10:38am -07:00

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It\u2019s up to the recipient to try to disambiguate the meaning based on context and <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/post-type-discovery\">post-type discovery</a>, and what things are can <a href=\"http://beesbuzz.biz/articles/10425-Changes\">change</a> over time, sometimes in unpredictable ways that fall apart.</p>\n\n\n<p>And the problem of display is a big one. When I wrote <a href=\"https://github.com/PlaidWeb/webmention.js\">webmention.js</a> it was as a quick hack for my own site, which I released on its own because it seemed useful for others. 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There\u2019s also still no real implementations around webmention for private posts; even with the <a href=\"http://beesbuzz.biz/blog/5711-Access-token-grants-for-feed-readers\">progress towards private posting</a> (with two theoretical ideas) there are no readers that support this stuff, much less webmention endpoints. Any ecosystem which supports this stuff is going to need a tighter coupling between the webmention endpoint and the authentication token broker. This can certainly be engineered for, but gosh are there a lot of pieces that need to come together to work together\u2026</p><p>The more I think about this stuff, the more I feel like all the functionality needs to start being bundled together into one ball, and then that makes it start to sound a heck of a lot like the reasons I dislike ActivityPub. If I do ever get around to implementing <a href=\"https://github.com/PlaidWeb/Subl/\">Subl</a>, will it end up having to implement the webmention endpoint too? I mean, it\u2019s meant to subscribe to publications, including push events like WebSub and Ticket Auth, and what\u2019s webmention but yet another type of published event?</p><p>I dunno, this all just feels so <em>overwhelming</em> at times.</p><p>Mostly I like webmention as a mechanism for getting notified about stuff that happens externally, and prefer native comments for the actual discussions on a post. It\u2019s safer, it keeps all of the conversation in one place, it allows for easier moderation and abuse mitigation, and it doesn\u2019t rely on a web<a href=\"http://beesbuzz.biz/blog/1529-Stuff-about-webmention#d_e1529_fn1\">1</a> of trust that ultimately is based on the benevolence of the Internet community. Which, as we all know, is tenuous at best.</p><p>Of course the other problem with webmention is the expectation that (like all things IndieWeb) everyone have their own website on their own hosting and their own domain. 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martymcgui.re/2020/07/15/what-we-talk-about-when-were-talking-about-webmentions/

Jamie Tanna www.jvt.me

#webmention #indieweb

July 16, 2020 7:24pm +01:00

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vincentp.me/articles/2020/07/16/16-20/

Kevin Marks known.kevinmarks.com/profile/kevinmarks

Nice bit of reconstruction, and that you're factoring at the indieweb protocol level makes sense. Another protocol you may want to look at is WebSub so you don't need to poll your feeds so often, but can call web hooks when they are updated.

July 16, 2020 5:10am +00:00

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events.indieweb.org/2020/07/homebrew-website-club-west-coast-ZObv0hlGOdR5

Tantek Çelik tantek.com

hosted Homebrew Website Club West Coast tonight:
https://events.indieweb.org/2020/07/homebrew-website-club-west-coast-ZObv0hlGOdR5
Discussed many topics: proposed h-entry p-content-warning property https://github.com/microformats/h-entry/issues/19, IndieAuth test suite, UX personas roles as a way to update https://indieweb.org/generations, and more

July 8, 2020 11:21pm -07:00

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events.indieweb.org/2020/07/online-homebrew-website-club-europe-london-eIf6VfMWuhLY

Tantek Çelik tantek.com

went to Homebrew Website Club London:
https://events.indieweb.org/2020/07/online-homebrew-website-club-europe-london-eIf6VfMWuhLY
Great chatting with folks about rethinking person-tagging public photos (now considered harmful), and discussed #IndieWeb Organizers & Organizing blog post: https://tantek.com/2020/187/b1/changes-indieweb-organizing-indiewebcamp-west

#IndieWeb

July 8, 2020 5:20pm -07:00

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