Bumping this because it was mentioned in chat about finding checkins, bookmarks and other types. https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2020-07-25#t1595651715928500
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"text": "I was under the impression that there had to be at least 3 publishing and consuming examples in order for a new post type to be added. However, I can't find that actually referenced anywhere in this spec. \nIt seems to be part of the discussions in other issues though: https://github.com/tantek/post-type-discovery/issues/26\n\nThis is well beyond the methodology threshold of three independent verified publishing implementations...",
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I'm going!Looking forward to some discussion on the future of Micropub!
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We got one in the IndieWeb at https://xn--sr8hvo.ws/ and a collection of ones we’ve seen at https://indieweb.org/webring#Examples
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Oh, I already post on my own site first (IndieWebinng)- Twitter could disappear today on my experience wouldn’t change!
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Nothing’s stopping you! What makes a reply a “reply” is mentioned at https://indieweb.org/reply with a section on markup. You could make it “invisible” by making it a link with no text (any IndieWeb site should recognize that and rank it over an article when one attempts to run post type discovery https://indieweb.org/post-type-discovery
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Coming up this Saturday, there’s a Micropub discussion session over Zoom. We’ll be reviewing some of the Micropub extensions people are using (including Micro.blog). Details on the IndieWeb events site.
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I'm always interested to hear how other folks approach their (IndieWeb) architecture - this is a good read!
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@b_cavello, been reflecting. "immunity" not the goal. "#decentralisation" has been colonized by #blockchain snakeoil
Goals:
* agency+community instead of corp dominance
* humble interop, choices, direct practices
Like end of tweet #IndieWeb post links
which allow us to write and post more on our own sites,
and link to more resources like:
* https://indieweb.org/principles
* https://indieweb.org/why
* https://indieweb.org/start
We reject traditional "fast growth" capitalist narratives, and instead humbly encourage slow sustainable growth across numerous projects that interoperate with each other.
Longevity & dependability directly benefit the people participating, instead of shortterm excitement which typically only benefits investors (sometimes "serial" entrepreneurs).
Would love to chat more about these topics: https://chat.indieweb.org/ (There’s a Slack link there too to use Slack to join).
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Those worked but since it was also done for every form of content, it began a bit burdensome to maintain as I begun this larger refactor. This is also part of my motivation to encourage more work on social IndieWeb readers :)
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It’s already under way. We have the protocol that can give us this (AS2 + Git): https://github.com/forgefed/forgefed. Just need a company vested on actually working on actual community tools and not a brand https://drewdevault.com/2018/07/23/Git-is-already-distributed.html https://twitter.com/nomadtechie/status/1284218230870085634. Some IndieWeb magic would help too.
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I will try to make it to “Micropub Pop-Up Session.” I may be a bit late.
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Having your independent blog is an excellent way to share what you think in a decentralized way, independent of any major company that may add a paywall to it (Medium, I am looking at you).
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"text": "Why you should have a blog (and write in it) | Leticia Portella\n\n\n\n\n Having your independent blog is an excellent way to share what you think in a decentralized way, independent of any major company that may add a paywall to it (Medium, I am looking at you).",
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Oh, and I can load content from a post! https://micropublish.net/, I’m coming for ya, lol.
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"text": "This is the interface for Koype Publish after you use Web sign in. It\u2019ll pull some of the last articles you\u2019ve written and (depending on the support your site exposes) allow you to create new articles and pages as well as customize your homepage.",
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"html": "<p><a href=\"https://martymcgui.re/\">Marty</a> wrote a <a href=\"https://martymcgui.re/2020/07/15/what-we-talk-about-when-were-talking-about-webmentions/\">great, thoughtful essay</a> about some of the problems with webmention right now, and I agree with it.</p><p>One of the many problems that\u2019s emerging with webmention is it\u2019s turned into a sort of Swiss army knife of notifications; the IndieWeb uses it not just to send responses to folks, but also for things like publishing to <a href=\"https://fed.brid.gy/\">Bridgy Fed</a> or syndicating content to <a href=\"https://news.indieweb.org/en/\">content</a> <a href=\"https://indieweb.xyz/\">aggregators</a>. It\u2019s the basis of how <a href=\"http://beesbuzz.biz/chatter/\">notes</a> work. It\u2019s up to the recipient to try to disambiguate the meaning based on context and <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/post-type-discovery\">post-type discovery</a>, and what things are can <a href=\"http://beesbuzz.biz/articles/10425-Changes\">change</a> over time, sometimes in unpredictable ways that fall apart.</p>\n\n\n<p>And the problem of display is a big one. When I wrote <a href=\"https://github.com/PlaidWeb/webmention.js\">webmention.js</a> it was as a quick hack for my own site, which I released on its own because it seemed useful for others. I don\u2019t really want it to be a thing that everyone uses; I\u2019d much rather see sites aggregate and publish their webmentions server-side (I mean, I am <a href=\"http://beesbuzz.biz/blog/2934-Advice-to-young-web-developers\">a proponent of server-side rendering</a> for a bunch of reasons), but having a simple client-side javascript hack is a nice way to get webmention a bit more generally-used.</p><p>Webmention-as-reaction is fine, but it\u2019s very difficult to get good UX with webmention-as-comments. Reply chains are difficult to follow, especially if one of the links in the chain breaks. Webmentions that come in via <a href=\"https://brid.gy/\">brid.gy</a> can make for a bad unstructured reading experience as well. There\u2019s also still no real implementations around webmention for private posts; even with the <a href=\"http://beesbuzz.biz/blog/5711-Access-token-grants-for-feed-readers\">progress towards private posting</a> (with two theoretical ideas) there are no readers that support this stuff, much less webmention endpoints. Any ecosystem which supports this stuff is going to need a tighter coupling between the webmention endpoint and the authentication token broker. This can certainly be engineered for, but gosh are there a lot of pieces that need to come together to work together\u2026</p><p>The more I think about this stuff, the more I feel like all the functionality needs to start being bundled together into one ball, and then that makes it start to sound a heck of a lot like the reasons I dislike ActivityPub. If I do ever get around to implementing <a href=\"https://github.com/PlaidWeb/Subl/\">Subl</a>, will it end up having to implement the webmention endpoint too? 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"text": "Marty wrote a great, thoughtful essay about some of the problems with webmention right now, and I agree with it.One of the many problems that\u2019s emerging with webmention is it\u2019s turned into a sort of Swiss army knife of notifications; the IndieWeb uses it not just to send responses to folks, but also for things like publishing to Bridgy Fed or syndicating content to content aggregators. It\u2019s the basis of how notes work. It\u2019s up to the recipient to try to disambiguate the meaning based on context and post-type discovery, and what things are can change over time, sometimes in unpredictable ways that fall apart.\n\n\nAnd the problem of display is a big one. When I wrote webmention.js it was as a quick hack for my own site, which I released on its own because it seemed useful for others. I don\u2019t really want it to be a thing that everyone uses; I\u2019d much rather see sites aggregate and publish their webmentions server-side (I mean, I am a proponent of server-side rendering for a bunch of reasons), but having a simple client-side javascript hack is a nice way to get webmention a bit more generally-used.Webmention-as-reaction is fine, but it\u2019s very difficult to get good UX with webmention-as-comments. Reply chains are difficult to follow, especially if one of the links in the chain breaks. Webmentions that come in via brid.gy can make for a bad unstructured reading experience as well. There\u2019s also still no real implementations around webmention for private posts; even with the progress towards private posting (with two theoretical ideas) there are no readers that support this stuff, much less webmention endpoints. Any ecosystem which supports this stuff is going to need a tighter coupling between the webmention endpoint and the authentication token broker. This can certainly be engineered for, but gosh are there a lot of pieces that need to come together to work together\u2026The more I think about this stuff, the more I feel like all the functionality needs to start being bundled together into one ball, and then that makes it start to sound a heck of a lot like the reasons I dislike ActivityPub. If I do ever get around to implementing Subl, will it end up having to implement the webmention endpoint too? I mean, it\u2019s meant to subscribe to publications, including push events like WebSub and Ticket Auth, and what\u2019s webmention but yet another type of published event?I dunno, this all just feels so overwhelming at times.Mostly I like webmention as a mechanism for getting notified about stuff that happens externally, and prefer native comments for the actual discussions on a post. It\u2019s safer, it keeps all of the conversation in one place, it allows for easier moderation and abuse mitigation, and it doesn\u2019t rely on a web1 of trust that ultimately is based on the benevolence of the Internet community. Which, as we all know, is tenuous at best.Of course the other problem with webmention is the expectation that (like all things IndieWeb) everyone have their own website on their own hosting and their own domain. There are external glue services like commentpara.de that can help fill the gap but it feels like it\u2019s being filled with spackle instead of something that can actually bear the load. And something about that also feels like it can become yet another abuse vector, too.So, I dunno. I think I prefer to think of webmention as an \u201cexternal\u201d thing, a nice indicator of what others around the web feel and think about my stuff, but would rather work on further developing native comments for on-site commentary. I know, it\u2019s very silo-type thinking of me, but it\u2019s also what makes me feel comfortable.As an aside, my current comment system certainly has its share of issues and jank (and I\u2019m not a fan of its client-side rendering nature either) but its design is at least such that I can use it fairly reliably. Of course, now that Publ supports arbitrary entry attachments I have plenty of ideas about how to build a comment system that\u2019s based on native Publ functionality. It would probably scale better, too. Heck, I could also implement my own webmention endpoint (or at least a webmention.io webhook) that does something similar, and turns incoming webmentions into native comments and maybe get the best of both worlds? I dunno.\n\nSo to speak \u21a9comments"
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