IndieWeb

@accordionpolar indieweb.social/@accordionpolar

~ #webrings watch ~
Posting a new way to connect with the indie web every day!

Day #5: The Claw Webring
https://whitep4nth3r.com/

Truly a labour of love, whitep4nth3r's #webring is a professional, yet underappreciated work-of-art. Go show her, & it, some love.

#indieweb #website #yesterweb #web #webdev #smallweb

January 29, 2023 4:21pm +00:00

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@tms indieweb.social/@tms

it is so nice that interacting with people on the web without the abstraction of an algorithm or ads. #mastodon #indieweb

using @ivory makes it feel polished and fun.

January 29, 2023 3:54pm +00:00

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@mildlydiverting mastodon.social/@mildlydiverting

More particular questions about this scenario…

- what’s the current best practice for what, back in the day, would have been imagemaps? Is it some kind of canvas / Svg combo?
- is getting going with an ssg like #11ty a good fit?
- node.js, p5js, three.js… where is the interesting action at the mo?

Are there any niche sitebuilding tools that might help?

And who is doing good work with the weird web at the moment?

(Five years away = lifetime.)

#webdev #frontend #creativetech #indieweb

January 29, 2023 9:47am +00:00

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@tombofnull voidwood.online/@tombofnull

Little victories: swapped out the fonts on my site so they don't feel as all over the place stylistically, and added a fade-in on scroll to gallery images. And loading is a touch better on the 2022 and 2023 galleries. :'D

Enjoy my 2022 gallery! Going to be updating the older galleries with these tweaks when I get the chance.

https://www.tombofnull.art/gallery/archive/2022/index.html

[ #indieWeb #MastoArt #fediArt #lovinglyAmateurWebDev ]

January 29, 2023 5:53am +00:00

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@kyo haunted.computer/@kyo

pure #html and #css are rly cool
#smolweb #indieweb #yesterweb

January 29, 2023 2:39am +00:00

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Marty McGuire martymcgui.re

This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • January 21st - 27th, 2023

Activity Streams graphical model

#Coding

January 28, 2023 4:45pm +00:00

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Manton Reece www.manton.org

For puzzled Mastodon users reading my posts, I keep forgetting about Mastodon ignoring blockquote tags. Need to update Micro.blog’s cross-posting and ActivityPub to automatically change the output to use regular quotes.

January 28, 2023 10:16am -06:00

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Tantek Çelik tantek.com

Another interesting contrast^1 in the #IndieWeb community is that most of us have both:
* a domain name^2 — for posting our content, replies, likes etc.
* a chat-name^3 — for chatting in our discussion channels^4

Ideally, we would have a discussion system that “just” used our domain names as identities (IndieAuth^5 for Web sign-in^6) to chat with each other, but no such system exists (yet).

No we’re not going to all setup XMPP servers on our domains and attempt to hook them all up. Nearly no one wants to pay that admintax^7. Nor would XMPP let us “just” use our domain names. Like email, XMPP requires a separate “username”. Sure we could fake it like Bridgy Fed does for us with 'domain @ domain', but why would we work harder for a worse UX?

So instead of making things more complex than domains, we took the opposite approach, and based our chat on IRC, and our chat-names on plain nicknames.

Using a chat system like IRC lowered the barrier to participation in the IndieWeb community, so you could for example, ask about how to pick a domain name^2 instead of being stuck in an actual catch-22^1 of needing a domain name just to ask about a domain name.

By putting our chat archives on the web^8, we were able to reduce our chat system requirements, provide a simple minimal web app for brief chats, and bridge our IRC channels with multiple other chat systems, like Slack, Matrix, and even Discord^9. This has the significant advantage of much greater chat client choice for community members.

However, we did realize that our statements in the chat archives^8 could be more closely tied to our domain identities, including our personal icons^10. Rather than a complex system or new protocol, we just put our flat list of nicknames in templates with images & domains on the wiki^11.

Thus our chat archives, despite being based on IRC, show icons for people, and link their chat nicknames to their personal domain names, again striking a pragmatic balance.^1

The flexibility of using a wiki template allowed us to add personal time zones as well, to enable things like asking in chat, “what time is it for tantek”. This works well enough, except does not account for cross-time-zone travel, though you could update your chat-name entry if you wanted to while traveling.

Having all our chat-names in a single list^11 on a page like that revealed another interesting aspect: we have folks across all the timezones in the US & Europe, some in the Middle East, Australia, and most of Asia as well.

As a result, the IndieWeb chat channels have people awake and often discussing various topics 24 hours a day.

Drop by^8 and say hi, and be sure to have a look at our Code of Conduct.^12

This is day 24 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb #100Days

← Day 23: https://tantek.com/2023/027/t4/five-years-websub
→ 🔮

^1 https://tantek.com/2023/026/t1/indieweb-priorities-balance
^2 https://tantek.com/2023/004/t1/choosing-domain-name-indieweb
^3 https://indieweb.org/chat-names
^4 https://indieweb.org/discuss
^5 https://indieweb.org/IndieAuth
^6 https://indieweb.org/Web_sign-in
^7 https://indieweb.org/admintax
^8 https://chat.indieweb.org/
^9 https://indieweb.org/discuss#Join_Discussions
^10 https://indieweb.org/icon
^11 https://indieweb.org/chat-names#Nicknames
^12 https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct

#IndieWeb #100DaysOfIndieWeb #100Days

January 27, 2023 11:11pm -08:00

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@liztai hachyderm.io/@liztai

"... sometimes the optimization of a craft is the reason for it's destruction because it reduces it to the most optimal version of it and kills it by making it soulless."
- https://toot.jeena.net/@jeena Content is King? I was wrong about it.

I miss the personal stories told in the blogs of the early 2000s and where you don't have to measure your #content according to traffic.

I also miss rainbow gifs.

#algorithms #IndieWeb #SocialMedia

https://jeena.net/content-is-king

January 28, 2023 1:05pm +00:00

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        "html": "<p>\"... sometimes the optimization of a craft is the reason for it's destruction because it reduces it to the most optimal version of it and kills it by making it soulless.\"<br />- <a href=\"https://toot.jeena.net/@jeena\"><span>https://</span><span>toot.jeena.net/@jeena</span><span></span></a> Content is King? I was wrong about it. </p><p>I miss the personal stories told in the blogs of the early 2000s and where you don't have to measure your <a href=\"https://hachyderm.io/tags/content\">#<span>content</span></a> according to traffic.</p><p>I also miss rainbow gifs.</p><p><a href=\"https://hachyderm.io/tags/algorithms\">#<span>algorithms</span></a> <a href=\"https://hachyderm.io/tags/IndieWeb\">#<span>IndieWeb</span></a> <a href=\"https://hachyderm.io/tags/SocialMedia\">#<span>SocialMedia</span></a> </p><p><a href=\"https://jeena.net/content-is-king\"><span>https://</span><span>jeena.net/content-is-king</span><span></span></a></p>",
        "text": "\"... sometimes the optimization of a craft is the reason for it's destruction because it reduces it to the most optimal version of it and kills it by making it soulless.\"\n- https://toot.jeena.net/@jeena Content is King? I was wrong about it. I miss the personal stories told in the blogs of the early 2000s and where you don't have to measure your #content according to traffic.I also miss rainbow gifs.#algorithms #IndieWeb #SocialMedia https://jeena.net/content-is-king"
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@rolle mementomori.social/@rolle

What lists do you use in here?

I have only two lists I use daily:

- #WebDev (the #IndieWeb-people, all the people who do websites, mostly #a11y, #HTML, #CSS and #JS people as those are my things)

- Suomalaiset (literally #Finnish people, people from #Finland, that is)

#Mastodon #MastodonLists

January 28, 2023 12:05pm +00:00

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@besenwagen ruhr.social/@besenwagen

The problem with the #IndieWeb is that making your personal website an inaccessible, user hostile shithole just doesn’t scale. You need a #VC funded corporation for that.

January 28, 2023 10:50am +00:00

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Tantek Çelik tantek.com

Five years ago (Monday the 23rd) the @W3C Social Web Working Group published the WebSub Recommendation^1

The test suites https://websub.rocks/ for Publishers, Subscribers, and Hubs are still up & running, as are the vast majority of implementations documented in the implementation report.

My site supports the publishing side of WebSub via the Superfeedr Hub^2 and there are many more supporting sites^3.

Beyond publishing blog posts and realtime updates in social readers^4, there are additional WebSub use-cases such as real time #IndieWeb search^5 results, like Technorati except opt-in via WebSub subscriptions, and without any polling.

Such diverse use-cases are one of the benefits of building-block^6 standards^7 like WebSub.

If you create a new WebSub implementation, be sure to test it with the test suite^8 and add your results to the WebSub Implementation Reports repo^9.

Got questions about WebSub? Ask in https://chat.indieweb.org/dev

This is day 23 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb #100Days

← Day 22: https://tantek.com/2023/026/t1/indieweb-priorities-balance
→ 🔮

^1 https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/REC-websub-20180123/
^2 https://pubsubhubbub.superfeedr.com/
^3 https://indieweb.org/WebSub#IndieWeb_Examples
^4 https://indieweb.org/social_reader
^5 https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb_Search
^6 https://indieweb.org/building-blocks
^7 https://spec.indieweb.org/
^8 https://websub.rocks/
^9 https://websub.net/implementation-reports

#IndieWeb #100DaysOfIndieWeb #100Days

January 27, 2023 7:51pm -08:00

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bw3.dev/o/29Dfx

Tantek Çelik tantek.com

https://bw3.dev/ (@0x3b0b) your reply mostly worked as intended!
I checked my webmention.io:
* 2 replies via Bridgy Fed and Bridgy (backfeed from Twitter), and
* 1 mention directly from your original post permalink.

Your #IndieWeb reply does have a u-in-reply-to link to a fed-brid-gy/r/ prefixed URL of my permalink, however the u-in-reply-to link directly to my site is linked to my previous post (look for "2023/018/t1" in your reply content’s markup) instead of the intended post!

Try updating that direct link to use the correct URL (my original post at top of thread), add some link text to it, and resend a webmention.

It’s ok to have multiple visible reply links (e.g. this reply has them, to your post & POSSE tweet reply, at the top.).

Lastly, when you link directly from IndieWeb site to IndieWeb site with your reply, there’s no need to also link via Bridgy Fed. The direct Webmention is sufficient.

#IndieWeb

January 27, 2023 6:43pm -08:00

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@danshield mastodon.social/@danshield

Thinking about using the $300 Google Cloud credit to set up a VM and start playing with #indieweb projects. I've written enough web apps, I suppose I should try hosting one for once.

Any suggestions for someone new to the self-hosting world?

January 28, 2023 3:14am +00:00

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@box464 mastodon.social/@box464

Found some really great #IndieWeb resources tonight, all of which tell me it's time to move over to Netlify for my static site. @sia has the place to start, and she links through to some other great sites from here as well.

https://sia.codes/posts/webmentions-eleventy-in-depth/

January 28, 2023 3:13am +00:00

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        "html": "<p>Found some really great <a href=\"https://mastodon.social/tags/IndieWeb\">#<span>IndieWeb</span></a> resources tonight, all of which tell me it's time to move over to Netlify for my static site.  <span class=\"h-card\"><a class=\"u-url\" href=\"https://front-end.social/@sia\">@<span>sia</span></a></span>  has the place to start, and she links through to some other great sites from here as well.</p><p><a href=\"https://sia.codes/posts/webmentions-eleventy-in-depth/\"><span>https://</span><span>sia.codes/posts/webmentions-el</span><span>eventy-in-depth/</span></a></p>",
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