Now, this is super interesting. Last night, I asked how people display #Webmentions on their (#IndieWeb) sites. I already got a few really good answers, including e.g. the sites of @sia, @nhoizey, and @andy. šŸ™

But now, I want more. 😁 And I’ll write a summary (with details), of course.

Have you seen a Webmention implementation with great UX or anything that looks like a great best practice? LMK below!

šŸ‘‡

Tantek Ƈelik blogs about yesterday’s The Verge article on ActivityPub, underscoring some of the IndieWeb principles that are covered. There’s really a lot in there and I’m glad to see the article getting so much attention. Thanks @pierce@mas.to!

ActivityPub is the next big thing in social networks - The Verge

After nearly two decades of fighting for this vision of the internet, the people who believed in federation feel like they’re finally going to win. The change they imagine still requires a lot of user education — and a lot of work to make this stuff work for users. But the fundamental shift, from platforms to protocols, appears to have momentum in a way it never has before.

#activitypub #fediverse #mastodon #twitter #portable #social #networks #portability #indieweb #protocols #standards

I am really impatient for #SocialMedia to become more like email and for all walled gardens to just connect with one another already.

😐

#IndieWeb #ActivityPub

In https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/20/23689570/activitypub-protocol-standard-social-network, author @pierce@mas.to does an excellent job covering a broad range of #ActivityPub related updates, and goes beyond the usual #Mastodon focus to describe numerous implementations.

I was very happy to see that he also clearly communicated several #IndieWeb principles¹, practices, goals, and reasons why². Like this quote:

Ā ā€œBut the advice you’ll hear from most people in this space is this: own your own domain. Don’t be john@/mastodon.social or anna@/facebook.com. Have a space that is yours, that belongs to you, a username and identity that can’t disappear just because a company goes out of business or sells to a megalomaniac.ā€

and this:

Ā ā€œIt’s [your own domain is] your YouTube channel name and your TikTok username and your Instagram handle and your phone number and your Twitter @, all in one name.ā€

Great interviews with @stevetex@mozilla.social, @mike@flipboard.social, @dustycloud.org (@cwebber@octodon.social), @evanp.me (@evan@cosocial.ca), @anildash.com (@anildash@me.dm), @coachtony@me.dm, and @manton.org.

As Manton said in the article:

Ā ā€œIf you solve identity with domain names, it makes things easier because it fits the way the web has been for 20 years,ā€

Pierce also noted:

Ā ā€œyou might soon be able to turn your personal website into your entire social identity onlineā€
Ā 
Already can.

I replied to Pierce’s post³ about his article noting this⁓, from #federating directly from my website for the past ~6 months⁵, to over a decade of using it as my social identity with the POSSE method⁶ with various #socialMedia silos.

It’s important enough that I’ll repeat part of Pierce’s quote at the top:

Ā ā€œown your own domain. Don’t be john@/mastodon.social or anna@/facebook.com. Have a space that is yoursā€
Ā 
He gets it. Don’t be someone at someone else’s server.

Big Chad or Little Chad’s garages⁷ are social media stepping stones towards owning your own domain and IndieWeb presence.

We’re here when you’re ready to take that next step: https://chat.indieweb.org/


This is day 38 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb. #100Days

← Day 37: https://tantek.com/2023/109/t2/years-ago-first-federated-indieweb-thread
→ šŸ”®


¹ https://indieweb.org/principles
² https://indieweb.org/why
³ https://mas.to/@pierce/110231624819547202
⁓ https://tantek.com/2023/110/t1/
⁵ https://tantek.com/2022/301/t1/twittermigration-bridgyfed-mastodon-indieweb
⁶ https://indieweb.org/POSSE
⁷ https://tantek.com/2023/001/t1/own-your-notes
#ActivityPub #Mastodon #IndieWeb #federating #socialMedia #100DaysOfIndieWeb #100Days
@pierce@mas.to nice broad coverage in https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/20/23689570/activitypub-protocol-standard-social-network
Especially your #IndieWeb encouragements to:

Ā ā€œown your own domainā€

Ā ā€œHave a space that is yours, that belongs to you, a username and identity that can’t disappear just because a company goes out of business or sells to a megalomaniac.ā€

As you pointed out, the ā€œWordPress plug-in for ActivityPubā€ enables this today for people who use WordPress for their site.

One minor correction. You said:

Ā ā€œā€¦ you might soon be able to turn your personal website into your entire social identity onlineā€

Always have been.

About six months ago I setup my personal website https://tantek.com/ as my #fediverse address @tantek.com¹. No need for a separate Mastodon account on someone else’s instance.²

This transmission is coming to you³ … from my personal website.

For 13+ years I’ve been using my site as my social identity⁓, using POSSE (before we called it that) to syndicate & distribute my posts to Twitter*, eventually to Facebook*, Flickr, GitHub, and now #federating directly with #ActivityPub supporting servers & services.

*Until they (Facebook, Twitter) dropped or disabled API access, and I haven't posted there since.

As you said:

Ā ā€œIt’s [your own domain is] your YouTube channel name and your TikTok username and your Instagram handle and your phone number and your Twitter @, all in one nameā€

https://tantek.com/contact is my ā€œphone numberā€, it’s the šŸ’¬ on the top left on my home page.

The web is already ā€œthe underlying infrastructure of the social webā€.

"your own domain" can already be ā€œyour identity for everythingā€.

Lots more on this at https://indieweb.org/

¹ https://tantek.com/2022/301/t1/twittermigration-bridgyfed-mastodon-indieweb
² https://tantek.com/2023/001/t1/own-your-notes
³ https://youtu.be/ScJvQhWL7Lg?t=24
⁓ https://tantek.com/2010/001/t1/declaring-independence-building-it
#IndieWeb #fediverse #federating #ActivityPub
In https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/20/23689570/activitypub-protocol-standard-social-network, author @pierce@mas.to does an excellent job covering a broad range of #ActivityPub related updates, and goes beyond the usual #Mastodon focus to describe numerous implementations.

I was very happy to see that he also clearly communicated several #IndieWeb principles¹, practices, goals, and reasons why². Like this quote:

Ā ā€œBut the advice you’ll hear from most people in this space is this: own your own domain. Don’t be john@/mastodon.social or anna@/facebook.com. Have a space that is yours, that belongs to you, a username and identity that can’t disappear just because a company goes out of business or sells to a megalomaniac.ā€

and this:

Ā ā€œIt’s [your own domain is] your YouTube channel name and your TikTok username and your Instagram handle and your phone number and your Twitter @, all in one name.ā€

Great interviews with @stevetex@mozilla.social, @mike@flipboard.social, @dustycloud.org (@cwebber@octodon.social), @evanp.me (@evan@cosocial.ca), @anildash.com (@anildash@me.dm), @coachtony@me.dm, and @manton.org (@manton@manton.org).

As Manton said in the article:

Ā ā€œIf you solve identity with domain names, it makes things easier because it fits the way the web has been for 20 years,ā€

Pierce also noted:

Ā ā€œyou might soon be able to turn your personal website into your entire social identity onlineā€
Ā 
Already can.

I replied to Pierce’s post³ about his article noting this⁓, from #federating directly from my website for the past ~6 months⁵, to over a decade of using it as my social identity with the POSSE method⁶ with various #socialMedia silos.

It’s important enough that I’ll repeat part of Pierce’s quote at the top:

Ā ā€œown your own domain. Don’t be john@/mastodon.social or anna@/facebook.com. Have a space that is yoursā€
Ā 
He gets it. Don’t be someone at someone else’s server.

Big Chad or Little Chad’s garages⁷ are social media stepping stones towards owning your own domain and IndieWeb presence.

We’re here when you’re ready to take that next step: https://chat.indieweb.org/


This is day 38 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb. #100Days

← Day 37: https://tantek.com/2023/109/t2/years-ago-first-federated-indieweb-thread
→ šŸ”®


¹ https://indieweb.org/principles
² https://indieweb.org/why
³ https://mas.to/@pierce/110231624819547202
⁓ https://tantek.com/2023/110/t1/
⁵ https://tantek.com/2022/301/t1/twittermigration-bridgyfed-mastodon-indieweb
⁶ https://indieweb.org/POSSE
⁷ https://tantek.com/2023/001/t1/own-your-notes

ā€œConvenience is one of those things you pay interest on. And when the price is as valuable as our attention, it’s rarely worth the costā€

Another #blog post up and some more thoughts about the digital world, the attention economy and the tools we use (and how they use us in return)

On a side note, it’s quite exciting to see this little blog of mine starting to actually take shape now.

#indieweb #neocities #linux #google #twitter #SmallWeb

https://mikegrindle.com/posts/autonomy

The Verge has a long article by David Pierce today about ActivityPub. The quote from me about domain names doesn’t come across quite how I intended it… Yes, domain names are hard, but we need to make them much easier to deal with because they’re actually great.

new blog post! šŸ§‘ā€šŸ’»

this one is a little til on running python, via cron, in a docker container, on a raspberry pi (and all the associated headaches)

https://andrewconl.in/til/running-python-in-cron-in-docker/

#selfhost #webdev #indieweb #blog #docker #python #raspberrypi

This might be the most important blog post I ever wrote. It's been a while since I wanted to publish some sort of personal manifesto on my site.

After I stopped promoting myself as if I were a brand, I needed to put my foot down and declare what I stand for, on the only place that's not going away: my personal website.

So, here it is. A personal manifesto, where I touch on these topics:

#MentalHealth
#Sustainability
#Technology
#SmallWeb
#IndieWeb
#SocialMedia

https://minutestomidnight.co.uk/blog/personal-manifesto/

10 years ago today the first #federated #IndieWeb comment thread was published and collected peer-to-peer IndieWeb replies across websites without any intermediary, silo or otherwise¹.

2013-04-19 @eschnou.com posted a brief note on his personal site with #atMentions of a few domains (putting an '@' sign immediately before a domain name to indicate an explicit cross-web @-mention), which itself was also a first²

Ā "Testing #indieweb federation with @waterpigs.co.uk, @aaronparecki.com and @indiewebcamp.com !"

When @aaronpk.com was notified and replied from his site within minutes³, it became the first peer-to-peer federated IndieWeb comment thread, at the time using h-entry and Pingback. I blogged about it a few days later⁓.

Earlier this year I blogged more observations of all the user interactions that happened on that day and shortly thereafter to make this all work: https://tantek.com/2023/014/t4/domain-first-federated-atmention

Unfortunately Laurent Eschnou’s original post is no longer up, and we only have the Internet Archive copy. However most of the IndieWeb reply posts are still up including Barnaby’s: https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1334/

The oldest still working federated post and comment thread was second overall, unsurprisingly from @aaronparecki.com⁵, a whole 40 days after Laurent’s first.

This is day 37 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb. #100Days #OpenWeb #federation #fediverse

← Day 36: https://tantek.com/2023/100/t1/auto-linked-hashtags-federated
→ šŸ”®


Glossary

federation
Ā https://indieweb.org/federation
h-entry
Ā https://microformats.org/wiki/h-entry
Pingback
Ā https://indieweb.org/Pingback
reply post
Ā https://indieweb.org/reply

References

¹ https://web.archive.org/web/20130427010301/http://eschnou.com/entry/testing-indieweb-federation-with-waterpigscouk-aaronpareckicom-and--62-24908.html
² https://tantek.com/2023/014/t4/domain-first-federated-atmention
³ https://aaronparecki.com/2013/04/19/3/indieweb
⁓ https://tantek.com/2013/113/b1/first-federated-indieweb-comment-thread
⁵ https://aaronparecki.com/2013/05/21/4/xkcd
#federated #IndieWeb #atMentions #indieweb #100DaysOfIndieWeb #100Days #OpenWeb #federation #fediverse
@fredrocha.net (@john_fisherman@mastodon.social) saw your post (https://mastodon.social/@john_fisherman/110224246899618915) from the #IndieWeb stream. Beautiful photos on your site! #btconf was great wasn’t it?

My personal URL is https://tantek.com/ and my #fediverse @ is @tantek.com. My Atom feed file is auto-discoverable by feed readers from my home page.

Feeding (so to speak) two discovery birds with one stonefruit¹.

Your personal website can be your fediverse address², each providing seamless discovery for the other.

As web developers we should be building & developing our personal sites to exemplify the latest & greatest of such practices, including using Mastodon/ActivityPub as yet another distribution mechanism (ala POSSE) for your existing personal websites rather than a separate profile/stream.

Discussed this with @nebu@mastodon.social and @kadirtopal@mastodon.social just after the last talk @beyondtellerrand.com (@btconf@mastodon.social @btconf) yesterday, fitting conference closing thoughts complementing the heartfelt opening talk by @localghost.dev (https://sophie.omg.lol/ @sophie@social.lol)³.

Glossary

ActivityPub
Ā https://indieweb.org/ActivityPub
feed file
Ā https://indieweb.org/feed_file
POSSE
Ā https://indieweb.org/POSSE

References

¹ https://tantek.com/2020/147/t2/replace-violent-metaphors
² https://tantek.com/2022/301/t1/twittermigration-bridgyfed-mastodon-indieweb
³ https://tantek.com/2023/107/t1/beyond-tellerand-talk-love-personal-website
#IndieWeb #btconf #fediverse
10 years ago today the first #federated #IndieWeb comment thread was published and collected peer-to-peer IndieWeb replies across websites without any intermediary, silo or otherwise¹.

2013-04-19 @eschnou.com posted a brief note on his personal site with #atMentions of a few domains (putting an '@' sign immediately before a domain name to indicate an explicit cross-web @-mention), which itself was also a first²

Ā "Testing #indieweb federation with @waterpigs.co.uk, @aaronparecki.com and @indiewebcamp.com !"

When @aaronpk.com was notified and replied from his site within minutes³, it became the first peer-to-peer federated IndieWeb comment thread, at the time using h-entry and Pingback. I blogged about it a few days later⁓.

Earlier this year I blogged more observations of all the user interactions that happened on that day and shortly thereafter to make this all work: https://tantek.com/2023/014/t4/domain-first-federated-atmention

Unfortunately Laurent Eschnou’s original post is no longer up, and we only have the Internet Archive copy. However most of the IndieWeb reply posts are still up including Barnaby’s: https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1334/

The oldest still working federated post and comment thread was second overall, unsurprisingly from @aaronparecki.com⁵, a whole 40 days after Laurent’s first.

This is day 37 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb. #100Days #OpenWeb #federation #fediverse

← Day 36: https://tantek.com/2023/100/t1/auto-linked-hashtags-federated
→ šŸ”®


Glossary

federation
Ā https://indieweb.org/federation
h-entry
Ā https://microformats.org/wiki/h-entry
Pingback
Ā https://indieweb.org/Pingback
reply post
Ā https://indieweb.org/reply

References

¹ https://web.archive.org/web/20130427010301/http://eschnou.com/entry/testing-indieweb-federation-with-waterpigscouk-aaronpareckicom-and--62-24908.html
² https://tantek.com/2023/014/t4/domain-first-federated-atmention
³ https://aaronparecki.com/2013/04/19/3/indieweb
⁓ https://tantek.com/2013/113/b1/first-federated-indieweb-comment-thread
⁵ https://aaronparecki.com/2013/05/21/4/xkcd
@fredrocha.net (@john_fisherman@mastodon.social) saw your post (https://mastodon.social/@john_fisherman/110224246899618915) from the #IndieWeb stream. Beautiful photos on your site! #btconf was great wasn’t it?

My personal URL is https://tantek.com/ and my #fediverse @ is @tantek.com. My Atom feed file is auto-discoverable by feed readers from my home page.

Feeding (so to speak) two discovery birds with one stonefruit¹.

Your personal website can be your fediverse address², each providing seamless discovery for the other.

As web developers we should be building & developing our personal sites to exemplify the latest & greatest of such practices, including using Mastodon/ActivityPub as yet another distribution mechanism (ala POSSE) for your existing personal websites rather than a separate profile/stream.

Discussed this with @nebu@mastodon.social and @kadirtopal@mastodon.social just after the last talk @beyondtellerrand.com (@btconf@mastodon.social @btconf) yesterday, fitting conference closing thoughts complementing the heartfelt opening talk by @localghost.dev (https://sophie.omg.lol/ @sophie@social.lol)³.

Glossary

ActivityPub
Ā https://indieweb.org/ActivityPub
feed file
Ā https://indieweb.org/feed_file
POSSE
Ā https://indieweb.org/POSSE

References

¹ https://tantek.com/2020/147/t2/replace-violent-metaphors
² https://tantek.com/2022/301/t1/twittermigration-bridgyfed-mastodon-indieweb
³ https://tantek.com/2023/107/t1/beyond-tellerand-talk-love-personal-website

Is there a #fediverse variant that has implemented threads well?

I think this might be an underestimated feature. There's a cadence that the threaded microblog post created that is kind of a new mode of communication - even a new kind of format for thinking.

It's this format that allows us to share the hook of a thought, then unpack it. It facilitates collaboration on early ideas - including testing the soundness of those ideas.

#Mastodon #SocialTech #IndieWeb

šŸ“¢ Webmention Support in Enhance Blog Template

Our next step towards making it easier for folks to participate in the open and indie web is adding support for incoming and outgoing webmentions to the Enhance blog template.

by @macdonst

#enhance #blog #indieweb #webmentions

https://begin.com/blog/posts/2023-04-19-webmention-support-in-enhance-blog-template

@fredrocha.net (@john_fisherman@mastodon.social) saw your post (https://mastodon.social/@john_fisherman/110224246899618915) from the #IndieWeb stream. Beautiful photos on your site! #btconf was great wasn’t it?

My personal URL is https://tantek.com/ and my #fediverse @ is @tantek.com. My Atom feed file is auto-discoverable by feed readers from my home page.

Feeding (so to speak) two discovery birds with one stonefruit¹.

Your personal website can be your fediverse address², each providing seamless discovery for the other.

As web developers we should be building & developing our personal sites to exemplify the latest & greatest of such practices, including using Mastodon/ActivityPub as yet another distribution mechanism (ala POSSE) for your existing personal websites rather than a separate profile/stream.

Discussed this with @nebu@mastodon.social and @kadirtopal@mastodon.social just after the last talk @beyondtellerrand.com (@btconf@mastodon.social @btconf) yesterday, fitting conference closing thoughts complementing the heartfelt opening talk by @localghost.dev (https://sophie.omg.lol/ @sophie@social.lol)³.

Glossary

ActivityPub
Ā https://indieweb.org/ActivityPub
feed file
Ā https://indieweb.org/feed_file
POSSE
Ā https://indieweb.org/POSSE

References

¹ https://tantek.com/2020/147/t2/replace-violent-metaphors
² https://tantek.com/2022/301/t1/twittermigration-bridgyfed-mastodon-indieweb
³ https://tantek.com/2023/107/t1/beyond-tellerand-talk-love-personal-website
#IndieWeb #btconf #fediverse

We finished #btconf last night talking about the discoverability of personal websites with @sophie and @nickautomatic.

It turns out it's hard to be read, even if you have captivating and original content.

Reply to this post with your personal url and I'll link you on my website, https://fredrocha.net. Bonus points if you have an RSS feed link.

Let's start a @btconf webring!

#indieweb