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"text": "@tchambers@indieweb.social thanks Tim! And now two more years of work on AB Priority projects\u00b9 (and whatever else we come up with @AB@W3C.social).\n\n\u00b9 https://www.w3.org/wiki/AB/Priorities",
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I wonder if the new workout API that Apple is coming up with will solve some #Indieweb problems of being able to automate exercise recording on our web sites? Some folks were spinning ideas about doing that, though we couldn't actually come up with anything definitive as far as I'm aware.
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"text": "I wonder if the new workout API that Apple is coming up with will solve some #Indieweb problems of being able to automate exercise recording on our web sites? Some folks were spinning ideas about doing that, though we couldn't actually come up with anything definitive as far as I'm aware."
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"html": "<p>Is there a better way of finding <a href=\"https://social.platypush.tech/tags/RSS\">#<span>RSS</span></a> feeds than by typing <site in question> RSS Feed into Bing? <a href=\"https://social.platypush.tech/tags/Indieweb\">#<span>Indieweb</span></a> <a href=\"https://social.platypush.tech/tags/openweb\">#<span>openweb</span></a></p>",
"text": "Is there a better way of finding #RSS feeds than by typing <site in question> RSS Feed into Bing? #Indieweb #openweb"
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We need to totally overhaul company's offerings for different products. Way too many features; custom domains stand out to me, but I'm sure there are others, are listed under the "business" offerings for most. What about those geeks who use them for other things aside from a business? I'm one of them, I'm sure most of the #Indieweb community is, too. Not as helpful for nontechnical users, but for once, something does not apply to you.
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"html": "<p>We need to totally overhaul company's offerings for different products. Way too many features; custom domains stand out to me, but I'm sure there are others, are listed under the \"business\" offerings for most. What about those geeks who use them for other things aside from a business? I'm one of them, I'm sure most of the <a href=\"https://social.platypush.tech/tags/Indieweb\">#<span>Indieweb</span></a> community is, too. Not as helpful for nontechnical users, but for once, something does not apply to you.</p>",
"text": "We need to totally overhaul company's offerings for different products. Way too many features; custom domains stand out to me, but I'm sure there are others, are listed under the \"business\" offerings for most. What about those geeks who use them for other things aside from a business? I'm one of them, I'm sure most of the #Indieweb community is, too. Not as helpful for nontechnical users, but for once, something does not apply to you."
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The latest stats over the last six months from #Bridgely - a tool for #Indieweb sites publishing over to various social platforms.
"The other striking trend is the marked uptick in Mastodon account growth since Elon took over back in November. It’s more than doubled in the last 6 months, from 557 on Nov. 1 to 1125 yesterday! Exodus indeed."
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"html": "<p>The latest stats over the last six months from <a href=\"https://indieweb.social/tags/Bridgely\">#<span>Bridgely</span></a> - a tool for <a href=\"https://indieweb.social/tags/Indieweb\">#<span>Indieweb</span></a> sites publishing over to various social platforms.</p><p>\"The other striking trend is the marked uptick in Mastodon account growth since Elon took over back in November. It\u2019s more than doubled in the last 6 months, from 557 on Nov. 1 to 1125 yesterday! Exodus indeed.\"</p><p>cc: <span class=\"h-card\"><a class=\"u-url\" href=\"https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://snarfed.org/\">@<span>snarfed.org</span></a></span> </p><p><a href=\"https://snarfed.org/2023-06-02_bridgy-stats-update-8\"><span>https://</span><span>snarfed.org/2023-06-02_bridgy-</span><span>stats-update-8</span></a></p>",
"text": "The latest stats over the last six months from #Bridgely - a tool for #Indieweb sites publishing over to various social platforms.\"The other striking trend is the marked uptick in Mastodon account growth since Elon took over back in November. It\u2019s more than doubled in the last 6 months, from 557 on Nov. 1 to 1125 yesterday! Exodus indeed.\"cc: @snarfed.org https://snarfed.org/2023-06-02_bridgy-stats-update-8"
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@jax I like how #indieweb enacted it with Known or micro.blog, the ability to have a custom post type for Bookmarks that allows you to syndicate it as a blog post to different platforms.
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"html": "<p>Love how rapidly fedi software is evolving. Took a month break from upgrades, and had several version upgrades.</p><p>Now I have post editing in <span class=\"h-card\"><a class=\"u-url\" href=\"https://mastodon.social/@pixelfed\">@<span>pixelfed</span></a></span>!</p><p>And hashtags on <span class=\"h-card\"><a class=\"u-url\" href=\"https://tech.lgbt/@bookwyrm\">@<span>bookwyrm</span></a></span>!</p><p><a href=\"https://josh.tel/tags/Fedi\">#<span>Fedi</span></a> <a href=\"https://josh.tel/tags/Pixelfed\">#<span>Pixelfed</span></a> <a href=\"https://josh.tel/tags/BookWyrm\">#<span>BookWyrm</span></a> <a href=\"https://josh.tel/tags/IndieWeb\">#<span>IndieWeb</span></a> <a href=\"https://josh.tel/tags/SelfHosting\">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a></p>",
"text": "Love how rapidly fedi software is evolving. Took a month break from upgrades, and had several version upgrades.Now I have post editing in @pixelfed!And hashtags on @bookwyrm!#Fedi #Pixelfed #BookWyrm #IndieWeb #SelfHosting"
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"html": "<p>I update the content of my homepage. What do you think?</p><p><a href=\"https://mastodon.social/tags/IndieWeb\">#<span>IndieWeb</span></a> <br /><a href=\"https://vanzasetia.site/\"><span>https://</span><span>vanzasetia.site/</span><span></span></a></p>",
"text": "I update the content of my homepage. What do you think?#IndieWeb \nhttps://vanzasetia.site/"
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"html": "Show/Hide Transcript\n \n <p>How much does (or should) your personal site reflect what you do elsewhere? It\u2019s the audio edition for <a href=\"https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-06-02.html\">This Week in the IndieWeb for May 27th - June 2nd, 2023</a>.</p>\n<p>You can find all of my audio editions and subscribe with your favorite podcast app here: <a href=\"https://martymcgui.re/podcasts/indieweb/\">martymcgui.re/podcasts/indieweb/</a>.</p>\n<p>Music from <a href=\"https://aaronparecki.com/\">Aaron Parecki</a>\u2019s <a href=\"https://100.aaronparecki.com/\">100DaysOfMusic project</a>: <a href=\"https://aaronparecki.com/2017/03/15/14/day85\">Day 85 - Suit</a>, <a href=\"https://aaronparecki.com/2017/02/06/7/day48\">Day 48 - Glitch</a>, <a href=\"https://aaronparecki.com/2017/02/07/4/day49\">Day 49 - Floating</a>, <a href=\"https://aaronparecki.com/2016/12/29/21/day-9\">Day 9</a>, and <a href=\"https://aaronparecki.com/2016/12/31/15/\">Day 11</a></p>\n<p>Thanks to everyone in the <a href=\"https://chat.indieweb.org/\">IndieWeb chat</a> for their feedback and suggestions. Please drop me a note if there are any changes you\u2019d like to see for this audio edition!</p>"
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Been playing with the Webmention plugin a bit. Seems you have to register CPTs with explicit `trackbacks` support for them to be able to receive mentions. Also made IndieBlocks’ Facepile block work with them, in an MVP-sort-of way. Think I’m going to just hardcode this bit, rather than make it configurable.
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I’d really like to get my cross-posting from Micro.blog to Mastodon straightened out. I’ve posted a few times now, but I’ve been getting the following error. I don’t have issues authenticating any other app so I suspect it’s not the instance, but open to suggestions from anyone. Thanks!
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"html": "<p>question about warnings/content notices when entering sites</p><p>i'm working on a static site which i also need to tell people upfront will have the Spicy Content (nudes, sexual topics, etc) in</p><p>would you find it better when visiting, to view</p><p>a homepage that prompts you and gives you a link to go forward, basically what i'm currently doing at <a href=\"https://mindmesh.link/\"><span>https://</span><span>mindmesh.link/</span><span></span></a></p><p>or</p><p>a javascript alert or MAYBE a more complicated popup, ideally only showing up once per device (i'll just, yk, use browser storage or something)</p><p>i'd kind of prefer to do the latter because it gives me more room to link to specific things, is the thing</p><p>(alternate suggestions or implementation ideas that are simple and work well on static sites welcome also)</p><p>(edit, i guess <a href=\"https://plural.cafe/tags/indieweb\">#<span>indieweb</span></a> is an appropriate tag here?)</p>",
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"html": "<p>\"there was a time when the leading feed reader app required posts to have titles, and the leading microblogging site said they couldn't have them. That meant not only didn't they share data, they couldn't.\" <a href=\"http://textcasting.org/\"><span>http://</span><span>textcasting.org/</span><span></span></a> <a href=\"https://mastodon.social/tags/rss\">#<span>rss</span></a> <a href=\"https://mastodon.social/tags/activitypub\">#<span>activitypub</span></a> <a href=\"https://mastodon.social/tags/nostr\">#<span>nostr</span></a> <a href=\"https://mastodon.social/tags/bluesky\">#<span>bluesky</span></a> <a href=\"https://mastodon.social/tags/microblogging\">#<span>microblogging</span></a> <a href=\"https://mastodon.social/tags/indieweb\">#<span>indieweb</span></a> <a href=\"https://mastodon.social/tags/webmention\">#<span>webmention</span></a> <a href=\"https://mastodon.social/tags/identica\">#<span>identica</span></a> <a href=\"https://mastodon.social/tags/ostatus\">#<span>ostatus</span></a> <a href=\"https://mastodon.social/tags/statusnet\">#<span>statusnet</span></a> <a href=\"https://mastodon.social/tags/appdotnet\">#<span>appdotnet</span></a></p>",
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"text": "I\u2019m soliciting prompts for discussion. This piece is a part of that series.\u00a0Erlend Sogge Heggen asks:There\u2019s legitimate reason to be worried about Meta\u2019s P92 project being part of a EEE play against the fediverse.How might the fediverse community counteract this, perhaps with its own EEE strategy?We know Meta will attempt an EEE play, but what if we play the reverse UNO card and EE(E) them instead?Embrace: Carefully federate in a minimum-viable fashion that doesn\u2019t overrun the existing #fediverse.Extend: Make #NomadicIdentity a reality, so accounts can be moved effortlessly.Extinguish: In case of misconduct, defederate and provide mass-migration assistance.First, some quick definitions!P92 is the codename for Meta / Facebook\u2019s new app that will support the same ActivityPub protocol as Mastodon and its cousins. Users will be able to log in with their Instagram credentials, and one can potentially (but not definitely) imagine it being folded into the mainline Instagram app.Embrace, Extend, Extinguish was a phrase coined internally inside Microsoft to describe its strategy with respect to the web. The idea was that the company would embrace open protocols, extend them with its own proprietary extensions, and then use its control over those extensions to extinguish competition. In particular, its plan was to do this with HTML in order to cement Internet Explorer as the web browser.Finally, the fediverse, of course, is the community of small, independently-owned, largely non-profit social networks that interoperate using shared protocols, on which Mastodon is the largest platform.There is legitimate concern that a company like Meta might attempt to control the fediverse. This is particularly true if they are allowed to create a uni-polar world: one where Meta is the only large company embracing these standards. In that world, Meta can throw hundreds of millions of users at the protocol, and it will instantly become its largest user.I think it\u2019s helpful to look at how Microsoft\u2019s EEE strategy failed. There were arguably two main factors: antitrust risk and competition.The Department of Justice sued Microsoft for monopolistic business practices, ultimately leading to a settlement where Microsoft capitulated to changing some of its approach in return for the DOJ dropping its desire to break up the company. It\u2019s not clear to me that this kind of case would or could take place with respect to Meta extinguishing the fediverse; while I\u2019m not a lawyer, I think the argument would probably be that many other social networks are available.The other thing that hurt Microsoft\u2019s dominance was Firefox. It was a good browser backed by a good community, but that wasn\u2019t the deciding factor; Firefox gained market share because Google pushed it at every possible opportunity. Because Internet Explorer\u2019s dominance was a business risk to Google, and because Firefox was built by a non-profit that was non-competitive with Google\u2019s business, it made financial sense to try and break Microsoft\u2019s stranglehold. Mozilla\u2019s model was stronger than its predecessor Netscape\u2019s had been: whereas Netscape needed to sell licenses, Mozilla\u2019s deal with Google meant it made money every time someone used Firefox to search for something on the web. There was almost no friction to its growth strategy.This activity led to a resurgence in a healthy ecosystem of standards-based web browsers for years \u2014 until Google decided to re-use the technique it had used on Firefox to push its own web browser. Even then, Chrome is a far better standards player than Internet Explorer ever was.There won\u2019t be hard evidence that Meta is adopting ActivityPub until we see its app in the wild. But if it is, that likely means that it sees the protocol as at least worth experimenting with, and maybe even as a potential threat. That\u2019s a sign of great progress, and everyone involved in building the fediverse should feel good about it.If Meta wants to own the fediverse, this isn\u2019t a battle that will be primarily won with features or technology. Easy-to-use platforms, nomadic identity that easily lets you move your presence from one provider to another, and assistance will all be essential, but they\u2019ll be table stakes. (If Meta is working on the platform today, it\u2019s probably also too late for truly nomadic identity to make a difference.) To really stand a chance, the fediverse will need the kind of marketing and go-to-market support that Firefox enjoyed back in the day. Which may mean support from another large player that considers Meta\u2019s ownership of the standard to be an existential risk.It\u2019s hard to see who that might be. Twitter is now the incompetence wing of the incompetence party. It\u2019s highly unlikely that networks like Pinterest care. Microsoft\u2019s platforms are tightly bound to its ecosystem, with access control at their core; I don\u2019t see LinkedIn joining the fediverse any time soon. Google has fallen on its face every time it\u2019s tried to build a social network, and runs YouTube as a separate entity that strongly benefits from closed ads. Salesforce might consider it a risk, as it provides social tools for businesses, which are easier to build and sell on an open social networking standard. Some of these entities might consider the fediverse to be worth exploring \u2014 but there\u2019s no clear technology backer. Cloudflare actually did provide its own Mastodon-compatible platform that runs on its CDN, but it hasn\u2019t seen anything like wide use. Medium has embraced Mastodon but has not deeply built support into its existing platform.Perhaps media companies, who generally live and die on the size of their audiences, and have often been beholden to the large social networks, might find themselves interested in embracing a social networking federation where they have more say and control. The rise of the fediverse certainly is a de-risking of their business models. But I don\u2019t think they see it yet; nor do I think they consider it their place to pick a winner. (Nor should it be, really, in practice.)Perhaps there can be another kind of backer: an entity that sees the existential thread centralized control of social media poses to democracy itself. We\u2019ve already seen how, left unchecked, centralized companies like Facebook incite genocides and throw elections. The fediverse can be an antidote to these trends \u2014 if we see it as a set of collaborating communities rather than simply the technology alone. The erosion of democracy, like monopolistic abuse of power, are human problems with human solutions rather than technological ones. Foundations and philanthropists may choose to provide this level of support, if they continue to see Meta as a threat to democracy.Building features will not protect the fediverse from being extinguished, although they may provide a useful baseline. It\u2019s going to take a whole different level of strategy, relationship-building, deal-making, and movement-building. I believe the fediverse is capable of doing this, as long as it doesn\u2019t mistake building software for making true progress.",
"html": "<p><em><img src=\"https://werd.io/file/647789a0b779bfd5d600c182/thumb.jpg\" alt=\"The Mastodon homepage, displayed on a smartphone\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" /></em></p><p><em>I\u2019m <a href=\"https://werd.io/2023/consider-me-your-personal-analyst\">soliciting prompts for discussion</a>. This piece is a part of that series.</em></p><p>\u00a0</p><p><a href=\"https://blog.erlend.sh\">Erlend Sogge Heggen</a> asks:</p><p><em>There\u2019s legitimate reason to be worried about Meta\u2019s P92 project being part of a EEE play against the fediverse.</em></p><p><em>How might the fediverse community counteract this, perhaps with its own EEE strategy?</em></p><p><em>We know Meta will attempt an EEE play, but what if we play the reverse UNO card and EE(E) them instead?</em></p><p><em>Embrace: Carefully federate in a minimum-viable fashion that doesn\u2019t overrun the existing <span><a href=\"https://werd.io/tag/fediverse\" class=\"p-category\">#fediverse</a></span>.</em></p><p><em>Extend: Make <span><a href=\"https://werd.io/tag/NomadicIdentity\" class=\"p-category\">#NomadicIdentity</a></span> a reality, so accounts can be moved effortlessly.</em></p><p><em>Extinguish: In case of misconduct, defederate and provide mass-migration assistance.</em></p><p>First, some quick definitions!</p><p><a href=\"https://www.engadget.com/meta-decentralized-twitter-competitor-071316333.html\">P92 is the codename for Meta / Facebook\u2019s new app that will support the same ActivityPub protocol as Mastodon and its cousins</a>. Users will be able to log in with their Instagram credentials, and one can potentially (but not definitely) imagine it being folded into the mainline Instagram app.</p><p><a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish\">Embrace, Extend, Extinguish</a> was a phrase coined internally inside Microsoft to describe its strategy with respect to the web. The idea was that the company would embrace open protocols, extend them with its own proprietary extensions, and then use its control over those extensions to extinguish competition. In particular, its plan was to do this with HTML in order to cement Internet Explorer as <em>the</em> web browser.</p><p>Finally, <a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse\">the fediverse</a>, of course, is the community of small, independently-owned, largely non-profit social networks that interoperate using shared protocols, on which <a href=\"https://joinmastodon.org/\">Mastodon</a> is the largest platform.</p><p>There is legitimate concern that a company like Meta might attempt to control the fediverse. This is particularly true if they are allowed to create a uni-polar world: one where Meta is the <em>only</em> large company embracing these standards. In that world, Meta can throw hundreds of millions of users at the protocol, and it will instantly become its largest user.</p><p>I think it\u2019s helpful to look at how Microsoft\u2019s EEE strategy failed. There were arguably two main factors: antitrust risk and competition.</p><p>The Department of Justice <a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp.\">sued Microsoft for monopolistic business practices</a>, ultimately leading to a settlement where Microsoft capitulated to changing some of its approach in return for the DOJ dropping its desire to break up the company. It\u2019s not clear to me that this kind of case would or could take place with respect to Meta extinguishing the fediverse; while I\u2019m not a lawyer, I think the argument would probably be that many other social networks are available.</p><p>The other thing that hurt Microsoft\u2019s dominance was Firefox. It was a good browser backed by a good community, but that wasn\u2019t the deciding factor; Firefox gained market share because Google pushed it at every possible opportunity. Because Internet Explorer\u2019s dominance was a business risk to Google, and because Firefox was built by a non-profit that was non-competitive with Google\u2019s business, it made financial sense to try and break Microsoft\u2019s stranglehold. Mozilla\u2019s model was stronger than its predecessor Netscape\u2019s had been: whereas Netscape needed to sell licenses, Mozilla\u2019s deal with Google meant it made money every time someone used Firefox to search for something on the web. There was almost no friction to its growth strategy.</p><p>This activity led to a resurgence in a healthy ecosystem of standards-based web browsers for years \u2014 until Google decided to re-use the technique it had used on Firefox to push its own web browser. Even then, Chrome is a far better standards player than Internet Explorer ever was.</p><p>There won\u2019t be hard evidence that Meta is adopting ActivityPub until we see its app in the wild. But if it is, that likely means that it sees the protocol as at least worth experimenting with, and maybe even as a potential threat. That\u2019s a sign of great progress, and everyone involved in building the fediverse should feel good about it.</p><p>If Meta wants to <em>own</em> the fediverse, this isn\u2019t a battle that will be primarily won with features or technology. Easy-to-use platforms, nomadic identity that easily lets you move your presence from one provider to another, and assistance will all be essential, but they\u2019ll be table stakes. (If Meta is working on the platform today, it\u2019s probably also too late for truly nomadic identity to make a difference.) To really stand a chance, the fediverse will need the kind of marketing and go-to-market support that Firefox enjoyed back in the day. Which may mean support from another large player that considers Meta\u2019s ownership of the standard to be an existential risk.</p><p>It\u2019s hard to see who that might be. Twitter is now the incompetence wing of the incompetence party. It\u2019s highly unlikely that networks like Pinterest care. Microsoft\u2019s platforms are tightly bound to its ecosystem, with access control at their core; I don\u2019t see LinkedIn joining the fediverse any time soon. Google has fallen on its face every time it\u2019s tried to build a social network, and runs YouTube as a separate entity that strongly benefits from closed ads. Salesforce <em>might</em> consider it a risk, as it provides social tools for businesses, which are easier to build and sell on an open social networking standard. Some of these entities might consider the fediverse to be worth exploring \u2014 but there\u2019s no clear technology backer. <a href=\"https://blog.cloudflare.com/welcome-to-wildebeest-the-fediverse-on-cloudflare/\">Cloudflare actually did provide its own Mastodon-compatible platform</a> that runs on its CDN, but it hasn\u2019t seen anything like wide use. <a href=\"https://blog.medium.com/medium-embraces-mastodon-19dcb873eb11\">Medium has embraced Mastodon</a> but has not deeply built support into its existing platform.</p><p>Perhaps media companies, who generally live and die on the size of their audiences, and have often been beholden to the large social networks, might find themselves interested in embracing a social networking federation where they have more say and control. The rise of the fediverse certainly is a de-risking of their business models. But I don\u2019t think they see it yet; nor do I think they consider it their place to pick a winner. (Nor should it be, really, in practice.)</p><p>Perhaps there can be another kind of backer: an entity that sees the existential thread centralized control of social media poses to democracy itself. We\u2019ve already seen how, left unchecked, centralized companies like Facebook <a href=\"https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-facebooks-systems-promoted-violence-against-rohingya-meta-owes-reparations-new-report/\">incite genocides</a> and <a href=\"https://time.com/5949210/facebook-misinformation-2020-election-report/\">throw elections</a>. The fediverse <a href=\"https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/11/fediverse-could-be-awesome-if-we-dont-screw-it\">can be an antidote to these trends</a> \u2014 if we see it as a set of collaborating communities rather than simply the technology alone. The erosion of democracy, like monopolistic abuse of power, are human problems with human solutions rather than technological ones. Foundations and philanthropists may choose to provide this level of support, if they continue to see Meta as a threat to democracy.</p><p>Building features will not protect the fediverse from being extinguished, although they may provide a useful baseline. It\u2019s going to take a whole different level of strategy, relationship-building, deal-making, and movement-building. I believe the fediverse is capable of doing this, as long as it doesn\u2019t mistake building software for making true progress.</p>"
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"html": "<p>Similar to <a href=\"https://www.manton.org/2023/04/24/why-microblog-is.html\">my announcement last month about supporting Bluesky</a>, we\u2019re adding Nostr cross-posting to Micro.blog starting today. You can enable it under Account \u2192 Edit Sources & Cross-posting:</p>\n<img src=\"https://cdn.uploads.micro.blog/10/2023/09d7b90c8f.png\" width=\"600\" height=\"170\" alt=\"Screenshot with Nostr icon and add link.\" style=\"padding-bottom:0px;\" /><p>Nostr might have the most uncertain future among recent up-and-coming social web protocols. I\u2019m fascinated with the architecture because it\u2019s so different than ActivityPub, RSS, and IndieWeb protocols. I think it\u2019s interesting and worth tinkering with. I\u2019ve been personally using it through Micro.blog for about a week, so why not let other folks play with it too?</p>\n<p>Nostr is quite technical. If you don\u2019t want to be on the edge, feel free to wait. It\u2019s so early that using Nostr feels like testing a prototype, letting your blog posts loose into the wild west of the internet to float between Nostr \u201crelay\u201d servers.</p>\n<p>To get started, you will need a Nostr account. Unlike every other social network, in Nostr you don\u2019t actually register on a specific server. Your account is just a private key, which you will paste into Micro.blog. For iOS, I suggest using <a href=\"https://damus.io\">Damus</a> or <a href=\"https://nos.social\">Nos</a>. For the web, check out <a href=\"https://coracle.social\">Coracle</a>.</p>\n<p>These apps <a href=\"https://nostr.com/clients\">and others</a> will create your private key, name, and profile photo. Make sure to save your key in a password manager. If you lose it, you lose access to your account.</p>\n<p>Micro.blog\u2019s support for these emerging protocols is essentially one-way, pushing your blog posts out to people on other platforms. Later we will consider federation, where posts and replies from other platforms and brought into Micro.blog, like we already do for Mastodon and ActivityPub. I\u2019d like to see how much traction there is before we do more.</p>",
"text": "Similar to my announcement last month about supporting Bluesky, we\u2019re adding Nostr cross-posting to Micro.blog starting today. You can enable it under Account \u2192 Edit Sources & Cross-posting:\nNostr might have the most uncertain future among recent up-and-coming social web protocols. I\u2019m fascinated with the architecture because it\u2019s so different than ActivityPub, RSS, and IndieWeb protocols. I think it\u2019s interesting and worth tinkering with. I\u2019ve been personally using it through Micro.blog for about a week, so why not let other folks play with it too?\nNostr is quite technical. If you don\u2019t want to be on the edge, feel free to wait. It\u2019s so early that using Nostr feels like testing a prototype, letting your blog posts loose into the wild west of the internet to float between Nostr \u201crelay\u201d servers.\nTo get started, you will need a Nostr account. Unlike every other social network, in Nostr you don\u2019t actually register on a specific server. Your account is just a private key, which you will paste into Micro.blog. For iOS, I suggest using Damus or Nos. For the web, check out Coracle.\nThese apps and others will create your private key, name, and profile photo. Make sure to save your key in a password manager. If you lose it, you lose access to your account.\nMicro.blog\u2019s support for these emerging protocols is essentially one-way, pushing your blog posts out to people on other platforms. Later we will consider federation, where posts and replies from other platforms and brought into Micro.blog, like we already do for Mastodon and ActivityPub. I\u2019d like to see how much traction there is before we do more."
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"html": "<p>Any chance <a href=\"https://mythology.social/tags/IvoryApp\">#<span>IvoryApp</span></a> works with <a href=\"https://mythology.social/tags/CalcKey\">#<span>CalcKey</span></a>? Ivory makes for a superior <a href=\"https://mythology.social/tags/Mastodon\">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> experience and I would miss the app.</p><p>Has anyone done any <a href=\"https://mythology.social/tags/IndieWeb\">#<span>IndieWeb</span></a> posting & commenting with <a href=\"https://mythology.social/tags/WordPress\">#<span>WordPress</span></a> & CalcKey?</p><p><a href=\"https://mythology.social/tags/Fediverse\">#<span>Fediverse</span></a></p>",
"text": "Any chance #IvoryApp works with #CalcKey? Ivory makes for a superior #Mastodon experience and I would miss the app.Has anyone done any #IndieWeb posting & commenting with #WordPress & CalcKey?#Fediverse"
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