I'm checking out free web hosting providers that can be used for fun and personal websites.
I wanted to know what to recommend to people who want to make their own website, so I decided to try things out for myself!
Testing Free Website Hosts
https://web.pixelshannon.com/freehosts
#WebHost #PersonalSites #SmallWeb #IndieWeb #Website #PersonalWebsite
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DID YOU KNOW? There's a weekly Zoom call hosted out of the UK with folks from all around the world talking about personal websites, the #IndieWeb, and more? And it has good manners and smart conversation and occasional jokes? People ask questions and get--if not answers--LINKS? It's pretty great. TODAY. https://events.indieweb.org/2025/03/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-jYD9iLxrMP47
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#bloggers how often you post to your #blog ?
#indieweb #personalwebsite #personalsite
Daily
Weekly
Monthly
Whenever the Hell I feel like it.
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We elder millennials need to do a better job at promoting the actual internet. Apps and platforms have dominated. Podcasts can be listened to via RSS. How do we show folks the way? #indieweb #podcasts #buildtheweb
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I finally managed to add a proper robots.txt generation system to my personal website, and added a comprehensive blocklist anti-AI crawlers.
Changelog updated: https://www.mauromotion.com/changelog/
#AI #Astro #blog #indieweb #webdev
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I'm improving my Semantic Extractor that is used behind the scenes on https://w3blogy.cz for improved Author Attribution, Descriptions and Tags.
Now I can read metatags, rel and rev links, JSON-LD scripts, microdata and RDFa Lite.
The most used are OpenGraph and TwitterCard metadatada. There are some JSON-LD, a few microdata and none RDFa in my list of recommended articles.
I'm about to implement microformats parser because I'm very curious if there will be some.
#indieweb #semanticHTML
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@marginalia Small feedback on the new design since I use Marginalia as my main search engine: on mobile, the options in the sidebar are now unlabelled icons, and I'm not sure what exactly they do without rotating the screen to see the label.
In the old design, they were text-only and I knew exactly what I was switching on or off: vintage, tildes, no JS and such.
I use those filter options extensively and it'd be nice if that was changed somehow.
#MarginaliaSearch #SearchEngine #IndieWeb
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Got my refurbished miniPC up and running as an ubuntu server and will be going through the #LinuxUpskillChallenge
Also on the roadmap is to try some self hosting, expand this into a lab with more miniPCs to test out k8. If anyone in the #indieweb has any ideas or resources I am all ears!
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I'm trying to get back into blogging! This time about our little adventure in Hiratsuka a couple weeks ago. I am going to try to come back with a Part 2 tomorrow!!
https://renkotsuban.com/posts/2025-03-12-A-weekend-in-Shonan.html
#Blogging #IndieWeb
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@shellsharks A script to take your X archive and put into SSG #Indieweb would be stellar.
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Some great points here about email newsletters — including that email open stats are starting to become unreliable due to AI and big tech like Apple screwing around with the inbox (no, email is not immune to enshittification!). All this is part of why I moved away from calling my site Cybercultural a "newsletter". I'm not exactly sure how to define Cybercultural currently, but it will involve fediverse as a community-driver going forward. #IndieWeb #WebLife2025
ref: https://www.therebooting.com/the-newsletter-bubble/
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I've been writing a new personal site from scratch. It's been a while since I've done a site design entirely by hand, without any frameworks to lean on.
It's been a lot of fun, and I've been honing my html5 and css3 skills - trying to do everything the *right* way. Making use of some of the more esoteric CSS properties I'd never bothered with before (like margin-inline or padding-block) .
I've made all the graphics myself using #svg (thanks #inkscape!).
I'm focusing on having a *microscopic* footprint, with minimum connections (one markup, one stylesheet).
#SmallWeb #indieWeb #webDev
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New page added! Link collection: Other People's Link Pages...because I have too many tabs open
https://www.pixietails.club/links:other_linksout
#indieweb #smallweb
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Ten years ago today I coined the shorthand “js;dr” for “JavaScript required; Didn’t Read”
* https://tantek.com/2015/069/t1/js-dr-javascript-required-dead
in reference to (primarily content) pages that were empty (or nearly so) without scripts.
Since then js;dr found its way into a book:
Page 88 of “Inclusive Design Patterns” by @heydonworks.com (@[email protected])

and stickers!

At the time I made the claim that:
“in 10 years nothing you built today that depends on JS for the content will be available, visible, or archived anywhere on the web.”
I’ve seen and documented many such sites, built with a hard dependency on scripting, that end up dead and unarchived. Many of these have been documented on the IndieWeb’s js;dr page:
* https://indieweb.org/js;dr
I have to ask though: does anyone remember building a site 10 years ago (Internet Archive citation) with a Javascript library/framework dependency to display content, that still works today?
E.g. using one of the popular libraries/frameworks used to build such sites back then like AngularJS (discontinued 2022), Backbone.js, Ember.js, or even React which was still quite new at the time.
The one almost exception I found was Facebook, e.g. this Smashing Magazine post on Facebook barely renders some content and all commentary is missing, in the earliest (2019) version saved on the Internet Archive:
* https://web.archive.org/web/20191123225253/https://www.facebook.com/smashmag/posts/10153198367332490
You can extract the direct Facebook link if you want to try viewing it in the present.
Regarding those libraries/frameworks themselves, I wrote:
“All your fancy front-end-JS-required frameworks are dead to history, a mere evolutionary blip in web app development practices. Perhaps they provided interesting ephemeral prototypes, nothing more.”
Of all those listed above, only React has grown since, likely at the expense of the others.
However instead of fewer such libraries and frameworks today, it seems we have many more (though it feels like their average hypespan is getting shorter with each iteration).
Since I wrote “js;dr”, the web has only become more fragile, with ever more dependencies on scripting just to display text content. The irony here is that Javascript, like XML, has draconian parsing rules. One syntax error and the whole script is thrown out.
This means it’s far too easy for any such JS-dependent site to break, in one or more browsers, whenever browsers change, or Javascript changes, or both.
You wouldn’t build a site today (or 20 years ago) that depends on fragile draconian XML parsing, so why build a site that depends on fragile draconian Javascript parsing?
I’ll repeat my claim from ten years ago, slightly amended, and shortened:
In 5 years nothing you (personally, not a publicly traded company) build today that depends on Javascript in the browser to display content will be available, visible, or archived anywhere on the web.
There’s a lot more to unpack about what we’ve collectively lost in the past ten years of fragile scripting-dependent site-deaths, and why web developers are choosing to build more fragile websites than they did 10 or certainly 20 years ago.
For now I’ll leave you with a few positive encouragements:
Practice Progressive Enhancement.
Build first and foremost with forgiving technologies, declarative technologies, and forward and backward compatible coding techniques.
All content should be readable without scripting.
Links, buttons, text fields, and any other interactive HTML elements should all work without scripting.
Scripts are great for providing an enhanced user experience, or additional functionality such as offline support.
Then make sure to test your pages and sites without scripts, to make sure they still work.
If it's worth building on the web, it's worth building it robustly, and building it to last.
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--- NEW BLOG POST ---
🆕 In defense of the for...of loop
💬 Despite its introduction in ES2015 and implementation in all browsers over 8.5 years ago, I still see .forEach used in favor of the modern for...of loop. [...]
https://www.wavebeem.com/blog/2025/js-for-of-loop/
#IndieWeb #JS #Blog
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