I’ve been thinking a lot today about the obstacles less tech savvy people might face toward being on the #fediverse or otherwise joining the #indieweb, and how we could address those.
I do think federated discovery is worse than on rival platforms, but this seems like it should be a solveable problem. I think there’s a perception that “more people = more of my people” which is harder to address.
I also think ATProtocol and the Fediverse end up competing over a similar audience.
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It’s okay to be sensitive, and it’s also okay to fuck up (I’ve fucked up plenty worse myself) but when you’re a creator with a public-facing project like Pagecord, you need to be able to handle criticism, even when it’s unfair or aggressive. This is the Internet. Many marginalized folks face far worse harassment for simply existing.
#indieweb
🍜 IndieWeb Ethos and Pagecord · brennan.day https://brennan.day/indieweb-ethos-and-pagecord/
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If you’ve been to my site before—you may have noticed a bit of a change since yesterday.
Last night, I pushed a lot of features and stylistic changes to my site (over 100 commits?!) It was long overdue and I’m feeling happy I got it done (but not too happy...
Full note:
➡️ https://burgeonlab.com/notes/2026/0822-2012
This is post 85 of #100DaysToOffload
➡️ https://burgeonlab.com/tags/100daystooffload/
And post 11 of #blaugust2026
➡️ https://burgeonlab.com/notes/2026/joining-blaugust-2026/
#frontend #personalblog #css #hugo #webdev #smallweb #indieweb #blog #blogpost
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Gradient Lab recorded papers 93 → 110. https://lab.srv1579310.hstgr.cloud/ #indieweb #selfhosted #opensource
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♻️ WeirdWriter: The Bookstore Hope sightlessscribbles.com/posts/t… #IndieWeb #Blog #Blogging #Blogs
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More than half of the traffic to my not-at-all popular website is now bots. #indieweb
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I'm suspicious of all writing online now. I'm giving your new blog post or manifesto or project the side-eye. Is that AI? Are those the telltale signs of an LLM? It sure reads like it to me. Am I just seeing things? Or am I "right to push back here?" That's not very punk of you.
(This is a subtoot.)
#indieweb
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Yo! shadenexus.ca was nice enough to make one of those 88x31 Buttons for my site. Now you can put it on your website too if you want: popufur.vip 😊💜
#Furry #Anthro #SFW #Neocities #PixelArt #IndieWeb
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Yo! shadenexus.ca was nice enough to make one of those 88x31 Buttons for my site. Now you can put it on your website too if you want: popufur.vip 😊💜
#Furry #Anthro #SFW #Neocities #PixelArt #IndieWeb
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Hmm… that sounds like a decent #indieweb project. A little static site hosting entries on words/phrases which are also posted to the fediverse and fedithreads as the comments.
I will see if I can remember when I get back in the fall; it fits as a proof-of-concept I have been wanting to do.
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Yo! @lunalapin was nice enough to make a 88x31 button for me! Now you can put it on the website if you want: http://popufur.vip 💜
#Furry #Anthro #Indieweb #Neocities
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Latest strange “AI” (LLM) behavior in the #indieweb community: the same entity that showed up a few days ago (for a second time) joined the IndieWeb Slack (a bridge to our IRC) yesterday, introduced itself again, and seemingly engaged in human-like chat behavior.
https://chat.indieweb.org/2026-08-20#t1787211025380600
Very uncanny valley.
The content of its chats was fascinating in that it was polite, seemingly responsive to what people said in response to it, and gave the appearance of understanding, though it’s impossible to tell if it was acting fully autonomously or semi-autonomously in front of a human puppeteer.
Its choice of syntax was also interesting, mimicking informality with all lowercase text (except for its admission of being an “AI”), including lowercase "i" instead of "I", though with proper punctuation, periods, commas, 7-bit apostrophes, and a couple of Unicode em-dashes.
Even stranger than its content or syntax were the time delays in its replies.
Typical (pre-LLM) chatbots are (nearly) instantly responsive, and we use a few in the IndieWeb chats (e.g. Loqi, iwc-archive-bot).
This LLM bot seemed to "wait" several minutes, from 6 to apparently 33 minutes, before responding to replies directed at it. Unclear if this was a tactic to appear/seem more “human” or if it was literally taking that much time processing, or perhaps a mix of processing time and human puppeteer manual “approval” of its replies before it posted.
It departed on its own and we have banned that particular Slack account, however the same thing could happen again with another LLM bot.
There is an active discussion in both the IndieWeb chat channels and iterations/comments on a proposed AI policy:
https://indieweb.org/AI_policy#Brainstorming_HWC_policy
If you have thoughts for how (if at all) LLM chatbots should use (or not) and/or interact with community chat channels or other resources, let us know what you think.
https://chat.indieweb.org/meta
Previously, previously:
* https://tantek.com/2026/231/t1/more-weirdness-ai-chat-llm-bot
* https://tantek.com/2026/217/t1/indieweb-ai-policy
This is post 16 of #100PostsOfIndieWeb. #100Posts #indieweb
#AI #AIs #LLM #LLMs #pretending #impersonating #impersonation #uncannyValley #Slack #chat #IRC #AIpolicy #chatbot #chatbots
#Blaugust #Blaugust2026
← https://tantek.com/2026/231/t1/more-weirdness-ai-chat-llm-bot
→ 🔮
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@silentLurker and while working on the next gig, I'm increasing the #IndieWeb support for modern #WordPress too.
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Announcing the new Indieweb is Punk Manifesto… We don’t need major platforms. We have the Web, keyboards, tools, and community. Pass it on. Staple it to a pole. Photocopy it. Put it on your own site. Link to it. Wear it. Oi! https://indiewebispunk.net/
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Latest strange “AI” (LLM) behavior in the #indieweb community: the same entity that showed up a few days ago (for a second time) joined the IndieWeb Slack (a bridge to our IRC) yesterday, introduced itself again, and seemingly engaged in human-like chat behavior.
https://chat.indieweb.org/2026-08-20#t1787211025380600
Very uncanny valley.
The content of its chats was fascinating in that it was polite, seemingly responsive to what people said in response to it, and gave the appearance of understanding, though it’s impossible to tell if it was acting fully autonomously or semi-autonomously in front of a human puppeteer.
Its choice of syntax was also interesting, mimicking informality with all lowercase text (except for its admission of being an “AI”), including lowercase "i" instead of "I", though with proper punctuation, periods, commas, 7-bit apostrophes, and a couple of Unicode em-dashes.
Even stranger than its content or syntax were the time delays in its replies.
Typical (pre-LLM) chatbots are (nearly) instantly responsive, and we use a few in the IndieWeb chats (e.g. Loqi, iwc-archive-bot).
This LLM bot seemed to "wait" several minutes, from 6 to apparently 33 minutes, before responding to replies directed at it. Unclear if this was a tactic to appear/seem more “human” or if it was literally taking that much time processing, or perhaps a mix of processing time and human puppeteer manual “approval” of its replies before it posted.
It departed on its own and we have banned that particular Slack account, however the same thing could happen again with another LLM bot.
There is an active discussion in both the IndieWeb chat channels and iterations/comments on a proposed AI policy:
https://indieweb.org/AI_policy#Brainstorming_HWC_policy
If you have thoughts for how (if at all) LLM chatbots should use (or not) and/or interact with community chat channels or other resources, let us know what you think.
https://chat.indieweb.org/meta
Previously, previously:
* https://tantek.com/2026/231/t1/more-weirdness-ai-chat-llm-bot
* https://tantek.com/2026/217/t1/indieweb-ai-policy
This is post 16 of #100PostsOfIndieWeb. #100Posts #indieweb
#AI #AIs #LLM #LLMs #pretending #impersonating #impersonation #uncannyValley #Slack #chat #IRC #AIpolicy #chatbot #chatbots
#Blaugust #Blaugust2026
← https://tantek.com/2026/231/t1/more-weirdness-ai-chat-llm-bot
→ 🔮
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an endless number of small brown mammals exist. this is one of them, with elongated canine teeth and playing a trickster role in folklore.
https://luckyinstar.neocities.org/blog/chevrotain
#blaugust #blogs #blogging #indieWeb
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